New computer first world problems

[GreyGhost]

Bought almost everything for a new work@home PC. Going to be slightly strange to make some space while staying quiet. Mini ITX with huge air cooler (D15).

Still need to find the chip and two prolimatech fans. I would like a 5900X but they are obviously supply constrained ($730 to $1100 depending on store taking advantage of limited supply). 5950X supply constrained and expensive ($1050). 3950X price is high for what it is (least cost effective solution @$950). May end up with a 3900X as they are available for $640.

 

[GreenPlane]

Bought almost everything for a new work@home PC. Going to be slightly strange to make some space while staying quiet. Mini ITX with huge air cooler (D15).

Still need to find the chip and two prolimatech fans. I would like a 5900X but they are obviously supply constrained ($730 to $1100 depending on store taking advantage of limited supply). 5950X supply constrained and expensive ($1050). 3950X price is high for what it is (least cost effective solution @$950). May end up with a 3900X as they are available for $640.

I've recently got a laptop with 3900X and I love it! Previously used a laptop with Xeon 2176M and some workloads with this new Ryzen are more than 40% quicker! 5900X should be even better but availability is at question right now..

 

[Baggsy]

Was looking at doubling my RAM a while back, it was going for $160.
Just checked now and they want $248 for the same RAM, $225 in a different colour.

 

[GreyGhost]

I've recently got a laptop with 3900X and I love it! Previously used a laptop with Xeon 2176M and some workloads with this new Ryzen are more than 40% quicker! 5900X should be even better but availability is at question right now..

Interesting. I didn't know they had done that. It's actually probably a reasonably affordable way to get the unubtanium hardware now. Laptop with a 3950X and 2070 is ~3000 USD.

 

[GreenPlane]

Interesting. I didn't know they had done that. It's actually probably a reasonably affordable way to get the unubtanium hardware now. Laptop with a 3950X and 2070 is ~3000 USD.

My company got it from Eurocom (quick shipping, everything took less than a week). I've specd mine with 2070, cooling upgrades, 3900x without RAM or SSD/HDD for about 2500. Got 64GB DDR4 3200 RAM and SSD on newegg (they might still have discounts) and the whole system was about 3k CAD before taxes..

The biggest difference I've noticed in comparison with my old system is that I can run multiple projects (e.g. visual studios) at the same time without noticeable performance loss. But this system is not quiet by any means when it is working on full power heh

 

[TwistedKestrel]

Bought almost everything for a new work@home PC. Going to be slightly strange to make some space while staying quiet. Mini ITX with huge air cooler (D15).

Still need to find the chip and two prolimatech fans. I would like a 5900X but they are obviously supply constrained ($730 to $1100 depending on store taking advantage of limited supply). 5950X supply constrained and expensive ($1050). 3950X price is high for what it is (least cost effective solution @$950). May end up with a 3900X as they are available for $640.

Recently built a 5800X, shortly after the new year. I wanted to go mATX but it seems like nobody really makes great motherboards or cases in that form factor anymore. Definitely wanted x4 memory slots so ITX was out, so ended up going with regular ATX.

Looking back on it I definitely could have skated by on the 2500K for another year or two. Ah well

I've recently got a laptop with 3900X and I love it! Previously used a laptop with Xeon 2176M and some workloads with this new Ryzen are more than 40% quicker! 5900X should be even better but availability is at question right now..

What make and model of laptop is that?

 

[GreenPlane]

Recently built a 5800X, shortly after the new year. I wanted to go mATX but it seems like nobody really makes great motherboards or cases in that form factor anymore. Definitely wanted x4 memory slots so ITX was out, so ended up going with regular ATX.

Looking back on it I definitely could have skated by on the 2500K for another year or two. Ah well

What make and model of laptop is that?

NightskyARX15: EUROCOM Nightsky ARX15 Configure

Basically, it is Clevo NH5xAx model. There are quite a few brands that sell it under their names. Eurocom is Canadian and located in Ottawa..

Btw, it looks like BIOS update for this model that will support Zen 3 CPUs is coming later this year.. so, it would be possible to install 5900X into this laptop later

 

[GreyGhost]

Recently built a 5800X, shortly after the new year. I wanted to go mATX but it seems like nobody really makes great motherboards or cases in that form factor anymore. Definitely wanted x4 memory slots so ITX was out, so ended up going with regular ATX.

Looking back on it I definitely could have skated by on the 2500K for another year or two. Ah well

What make and model of laptop is that?

How much ram do you need? I went with 2x16 dual rank. My other computer is running 2x8 and it is still happy with normally a bit free (nvme ssd in both so swap drive hits arent nearly as painful as spinning disk).

 

[TwistedKestrel]

NightskyARX15: EUROCOM Nightsky ARX15 Configure

Basically, it is Clevo NH5xAx model. There are quite a few brands that sell it under their names. Eurocom is Canadian and located in Ottawa..

Btw, it looks like BIOS update for this model that will support Zen 3 CPUs is coming later this year.. so, it would be possible to install 5900X into this laptop later

I don't understand how this could work thermally... unless it just runs thermally throttled most of the time

How much ram do you need? I went with 2x16 dual rank. My other computer is running 2x8 and it is still happy with normally a bit free (nvme ssd in both so swap drive hits arent nearly as painful as spinning disk).

Well if I'm being honest the plan was to have options (e.g. buy x2 8GB and buy more later if needed) but at the time I pulled the trigger there was a pretty good price on a x4 8GB DDR 3600 set. Also at the time I bought, I was really annoyed by how B550 and X570 boards were priced basically the same, so I went with an X570 board on principle (Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite). I definitely could have gone with less CPU (5600X) but I feel like no matter what I still would have paid $200+ for a motherboard so I picked something that I felt like I was at least getting something for the money.

TLDR have 32GB because it was cheap, not because I needed it. But I didn't need a new computer in the first place

Side note: The Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 that my 2500K runs on, and that I bought for $235 new in 2011, has features (POST code display, power & reset buttons built into board, external CMOS clear button, finned VRM heatsinks with a connecting heatpipe) that you would have to pay like $450+ for today. Also the 212 Evo that I bought in 2011 for $37 when it was the new hotness... costs pretty much the same today and the only difference is a modified mounting mechanism

 

[GreenPlane]

I don't understand how this could work thermally... unless it just runs thermally throttled most of the time

Somehow, it works : ) I guess because of the amount of copper inside (did you check those screenshots of the internals?)

Just run cinebench r23 - 16524 pts (multi core). CPU had 76C after the test but I'm sure that it was higher at some point during the test just based on the sound of the fans (forgot to launch the monitoring app earlier). The test runs for 10 mins and I would assume that it would be thermally throttled if cooling was not sufficient.

Few things to note about my setup:

• RTX 2070
• 64GB CL22 DDR4 3200 RAM
• There were some other processes running in the background but I would assume that they shouldn't affect the score by too much..
• Grizzly Kryonaut on CPU and GPU.
• I have an active cooling pad with 2 fans.
• All settings are stock (i.e. no overclocking, default fan profile, etc).
• This laptop is not a small one.
• It can be quite loud when fans are on 100%..

I know that 16524 pts is not that impressive at all.. but I guess it is good enough for my application and I hope this information will help to someone who is looking for a portable "workstation"..

 

[油井緋色]

Anyone have recommendations for a KVM switch (M is optional, I just need it for USBs) that is well built with as little noise as possible?

Reason is because I'll be using it for two 1000hz polling rate inputs (aka. wireless gaming keyboard/mouse) and a wireless microphone. My cheap ass USB hub causes issues, and Amazon's cheaper KVM reviews have notes on noise issues.

 

[GreyGhost]

Anyone have recommendations for a KVM switch (M is optional, I just need it for USBs) that is well built with as little noise as possible?

Reason is because I'll be using it for two 1000hz polling rate inputs (aka. wireless gaming keyboard/mouse) and a wireless microphone. My cheap ass USB hub causes issues, and Amazon's cheaper KVM reviews have notes on noise issues.

I've been using an IO gear KVM for years (GCS634U). I just use it to switch a keyboard most of the time to save desk space and very occasionally as a KVM when setting up a new computer. It seems to work as I would expect except volume control on USB keyboard does not make it through the switch. It works with keyboard plugged into computer but plug it in to KVM and volume does nothing. No idea on noise or 1000 hz refresh rates.

 

[GreyGhost]

Somehow, it works : ) I guess because of the amount of copper inside (did you check those screenshots of the internals?)

Just run cinebench r23 - 16524 pts (multi core). CPU had 76C after the test but I'm sure that it was higher at some point during the test just based on the sound of the fans (forgot to launch the monitoring app earlier). The test runs for 10 mins and I would assume that it would be thermally throttled if cooling was not sufficient.

Few things to note about my setup:

• RTX 2070
• 64GB CL22 DDR4 3200 RAM
• There were some other processes running in the background but I would assume that they shouldn't affect the score by too much..
• Grizzly Kryonaut on CPU and GPU.
• I have an active cooling pad with 2 fans.
• All settings are stock (i.e. no overclocking, default fan profile, etc).
• This laptop is not a small one.
• It can be quite loud when fans are on 100%..

I know that 16524 pts is not that impressive at all.. but I guess it is good enough for my application and I hope this information will help to someone who is looking for a portable "workstation"..

Cool, thanks. It's pretty awesome that you can get performance better than a Gen 1 Threadripper in a laptop now.

My personal computer (1700) gets a score ~8300 with a very light OC (3.7 GHz with chip temp of 45C) and lots of other things open and running. Heavier OC would require a reboot which I don't feel like doing. At one point, I had an OC profile that ran it at 75C and got a bit more sustainable performance but that disappeared in a BIOS update and I didn't bother spending time to optimize again.

The computer that is getting an upgrade (A10-6700) gets a score of ~1400 and is loud doing it so a jump to ~22000 and almost silent will be nice. For heavy workload jobs, I run them on the personal computer to save hours of processing time. That was kind of a pain so this solves that and picks up a speed boost as well.

 

[GreyGhost]

Well now I have all the parts sitting at the office except for two fans and the chip which are hard to source and have not been ordered yet. I thought about picking up a 2000 chip for cheap to get running but that apparently is no bueno. Need 3000 or better. Oh well, back to hitting refresh 1000 times.

 

[TwistedKestrel]

Well now I have all the parts sitting at the office except for two fans and the chip which are hard to source and have not been ordered yet. I thought about picking up a 2000 chip for cheap to get running but that apparently is no bueno. Need 3000 or better. Oh well, back to hitting refresh 1000 times.

I had this thought too... sometimes there is unlisted support for a given chip on a given motherboard (you'd have to trust forums or Reddit), but the point is moot because the only cheap AM4 chips you can actually buy are FX/Excavator chips, and those will definitely not be supported.

 

[GreyGhost]

I had this thought too... sometimes there is unlisted support for a given chip on a given motherboard (you'd have to trust forums or Reddit), but the point is moot because the only cheap AM4 chips you can actually buy are FX/Excavator chips, and those will definitely not be supported.

Amazon had 5900X in stock for 810 + $50 shipping at one point when I looked. That was early in the process so I wanted to see how it played out with the ~730 + free shipping options.

 

[TwistedKestrel]

I used this stock tracker to get my 5800X from Newegg in January, it may or may not be useful to you too.

 

[Lightcycle]

Any advice on how to get an XBOX without paying scalper's prices?

Is there some kind of tracker for inventory somewhere? To get some kind of notification as soon as units get restocked?

 

[油井緋色]

Any advice on how to get an XBOX without paying scalper's prices?

Is there some kind of tracker for inventory somewhere?

Imo just wait or write your own bot for bestbuy/Amazon/whatever's API.

I've done it before to get a nes and SNES classic but the above isn't trivial.

The shortage is probably gonna last a few more months...then we might see a massive price crash due to oversupply. Console prices won't move though.

 

[Evoex]

Any advice on how to get an XBOX without paying scalper's prices?

Is there some kind of tracker for inventory somewhere? To get some kind of notification as soon as units get restocked?

various big box stores have a signup for email alert when they get in stock again.