Look at that dude, no single fock was given
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Look at that dude, no single fock was given
Dresden
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In his defense, I don't think he's got any left to give.
My point on the 20 beans was kind if like going to the zoo 3 or 4 times a year. Sure it's interesting and I love it but I would end up seeing a lot of the same exhibits multiple times a year.
A movie cost $20? I haven't been to a public one in decades, seems a bit high.
I can see the want to go, but also understand when people state that a lot of it is the same **** different year
A movie cost $20? I haven't been to a public one in decades, seems a bit high.
I can see the want to go, but also understand when people state that a lot of it is the same **** different year
Its $11 a movie including tax.
The show organisers have gotten complacent. They have brought the same formula for the last 6 years. It just gets boring after a while.
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There will always be those that think $20 is a lot of money, dinner @ $100 is crazy talk and used bike shouldn't be sold they should be given to the poor. Its ok everybody gets an opinion. I don't blame the show organizers for being complacent, its the exhibiters. The organizers run the show and there is only so many ways to show a room full of booths, the organziers job is to fill the room with people and sell display space, the display and participants set the tone of the show, if company X has two bikes and a kid sitting at a table with no people skills, that translates, some of the charity groups need to have a portion of revenue stream spent on promotion, three ladies sitting at a table with poor signage just isn't fun to look at and the message is lost. Having booths with Nobody manning it? why are u there? Display excitement is created by the participants in the event, lack of visual interest and interaction of the booth staff with the public cant be the promotors fault, they supply a room and attendees , the rest is up to the exhibiters , some got it really right, some were downright an embaresment.
I know what you're talking about. But depending on what/who it is, there might not be any money to pay for it, which is a catch-22 because to make money you need to spend money which includes how much floor space you get. Using Velocity's spot as an example, it was very small which didn't allow for presentation of any sort.
You said some got it right, I agree. But who in your opinion got it right that you can recall that wasn't backed by major money?
You said some got it right, I agree. But who in your opinion got it right that you can recall that wasn't backed by major money?
suzuki2000
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I think the horse is beaten, the show isn't as glamorous as some would like it to be, but for whatever number of years it has run, the formula is presumably working?
There are people in the place, as many as they could get? That is debatable
I that the price correct? Perhaps they are getting their target volume of people through the gates or possibly the target revenue. Anyone know if the price is set by the show or the Convention Centre?
Are the vendors all the right vendors? maybe not, but they seem to be coming back, therefore they must make money or at least cover costs or they would not be back year after year as people are indicating.
the show can be improved, no doubt, but would people be willing to pay $25 or $30 to get in?
The show whether you agree with it or not survives or maybe even succeeds in its current format. As consumers people can elect to not support a show they feel has no value. Look at the Niagara Falls show a couple years back. By all accounts I heard it was awful (I was not there) and it did not come back.
There are people in the place, as many as they could get? That is debatable
I that the price correct? Perhaps they are getting their target volume of people through the gates or possibly the target revenue. Anyone know if the price is set by the show or the Convention Centre?
Are the vendors all the right vendors? maybe not, but they seem to be coming back, therefore they must make money or at least cover costs or they would not be back year after year as people are indicating.
the show can be improved, no doubt, but would people be willing to pay $25 or $30 to get in?
The show whether you agree with it or not survives or maybe even succeeds in its current format. As consumers people can elect to not support a show they feel has no value. Look at the Niagara Falls show a couple years back. By all accounts I heard it was awful (I was not there) and it did not come back.
I agree with you.
Not including the Stealerships, most of the companies there are small businesses run by the owner and Family. They are there to show that they are still in business.
I personally look at all the booths. First impressions count. Will I go to their store if they are too busy chatting amongst themselves?
What about the booths with sexy looking girls. They are there to sell the companies products. Take Amsoil for example. Talked to the girls, had pictures taken of them. Nice personalities. Off course they do. Who wants to deal, talk with a snooty person.
A few companies there that I go to all the time and it is nice to chat with them. Some I even bought from because of the show price discounts.
Not a loss to me of the entrance fee($17) I made it back in entertainment. It costs me $15 to fill my tank +all the other expenses of riding.
It's a bike show, what else can they do?
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That will get old soon as well, there is no pleasing the masses
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It's a bike show, what else can they do?
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That will get old soon as well, there is no pleasing the masses
What?? You're sponsored by the bike show now?
Oh wait I get it. Your sponsors are there & you want to put in a good word. Sheesh, I bet your argument is not biased.
/sarcasm
Damn right I will put the good work for those guys
Dave from Competition has helped many racers and street riders in this forum with not only his knowledge but with deals and tire sponsorship money. Jimmy from Velocity has done a bunch of group buys in this forum and provided pretty good gear for once again not only racers but also street riders and the other 2 weren't there. But my comments had nothing to do with the them in this case, I am biased about supporting the industry and the people that get out of their ***** to promote it.
GTAM was there as well, should't you be supporting them? you spend more time here than anyone else.
and many others that are not my sponsors but are good business that keep this sport alive, the interest in motorcycles up and hopefully with interest comes lower prices for all of us, win win - To me that is worth 20 bucks
Anyways!
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Well I know Toronto is the LARGEST city in Canada because the Mayor smokes crack so I'm compelled to wonder what keeps most of the major OEMs at bay? And what about all the second tier manufacturers who should be showing their stuff at an INTERNATIONAL CENTRE hard up by an international airport named after a PRIME MINISTER? What would make the show more appealing? How about the organizers solicit some top notch venders? Make it worth their while to be there. They can do demo rides but can't set up indoors? I wonder what the back story is on that? Or go to the boat show for pointers.
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Enjoyed the show. It was better than previous years. The flea market feel of previous years wasn't there.
Renewed our race licenses, bought a jacket, chatted with far more people than I expected to see there.
Would have stayed longer if I hadn't wanted to get home for the juniors game.
$20 x 3. Sure a little pricey, but heh its January and I got to talk motorcycles for 4 hours.
Renewed our race licenses, bought a jacket, chatted with far more people than I expected to see there.
Would have stayed longer if I hadn't wanted to get home for the juniors game.
$20 x 3. Sure a little pricey, but heh its January and I got to talk motorcycles for 4 hours.
It's a bike show, what else can they do?
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That will get old soon as well, there is no pleasing the masses
Hmm. How about a wet t-shirt contest courtesy of the 'Got Ass?' Rockstar girls?
Then jello wrestling in a pool. Same girls.
Dude the show is right in the middle of the stripper belt, more than a handful of clubs within 5 minutes with hotter girls than those show girls, if that's your thing!
I was happy enough to chat with some local vendors and check out some bikes. Is 20 bucks that big of a deal? It's free parking too!
The boat show may not be a fair comparison, they don't try to run a Jan show, then an April show, the OEM manufacturers don't avoid the T.O. boat show they embrace it. Its also in decline in participation, West marine wont be there this year or Garhaur and Beneteau is scaling back.
But the beer garden is fantastic, the food variety is pretty good, the displays and booths are well put together. maybe they should go for pointers.
I've never been to a boat show that I can remember. Maybe a VERY long time ago in the 70s. It wouldn't surprise me that they are in decline. Boats are expensive, marina fees are sky high and now you need a permit to operate.
Whereas with bikes, in an age of rising fuel costs and sky high consumer debt, they occupy a weird niche of a consumer debt purchase that can actually save money on transportation costs if you use them for commuting regularly.
Whereas with bikes, in an age of rising fuel costs and sky high consumer debt, they occupy a weird niche of a consumer debt purchase that can actually save money on transportation costs if you use them for commuting regularly.
"The North American International Motorcycle Super Show" now there's a mouth full. In case of confusion "North Americas Largest Motorcycle Show"
I don't really know what to expect, but I guess it'll be OK.
I don't really know what to expect, but I guess it'll be OK.
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