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Motorcycle Parking Fees Recommended without Notice or Public Consultation
- Thread starter Rob MacLennan
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kiwi
Well-known member
Exactly and then if the city wants to do that cellphone thing, they are discriminating against riders who do not own cell phones.
If I find my councilor votes for this, I am going to be asking him the reasoning behind it.
atss2006
Well-known member
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
If it passes then a mass protest should be organized. Get a big group to park downtown and wait for the tickets. Then everyone goes in to contest and say the parking vouchers were lost. Bet the city would love the cost and headaches that would create.
If it passes then a mass protest should be organized. Get a big group to park downtown and wait for the tickets. Then everyone goes in to contest and say the parking vouchers were lost. Bet the city would love the cost and headaches that would create.
Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
It'll be interesting to see what kind of options are presented. Like I said before, trying to implement something to enforce this may actually end up costing the city money.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of options are presented. Like I said before, trying to implement something to enforce this may actually end up costing the city money.
Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
They'd collect back a few million in just one season tho...
They'd collect back a few million in just one season tho...
Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
How do you figure? It depends on what they implement, I'd say. Whatever changes they make to the system to allow motorcycles and scooters to register payment would have to be system wide, and that kinda stuff isn't cheap.
I'm not sure if they're considering some kind of sliding scale payment scheme for this either.
How do you figure? It depends on what they implement, I'd say. Whatever changes they make to the system to allow motorcycles and scooters to register payment would have to be system wide, and that kinda stuff isn't cheap.
I'm not sure if they're considering some kind of sliding scale payment scheme for this either.
Face
Well-known member
Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
Here's the link to the Council website with the specifics of this issue. Click on it to see how your Councillor voted.
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2011.MM14.19
I'm very disappointed that they didn't give any more time for consultation, but I read the removal of "to harmonize them with parking for other motorized vehicles" by Councillor De Baeremaeker as an attempt to not pre-suppose staffs' conclusions. There's no question that we are facing an uphill battle, but it aint over till it's over.
If the recommendations are followed, this will be at the Public Works & Infrastructure Committee on January 4, 2012 starting at 9:30 in Committee Room 1 on the 2nd floor of City Hall. If you are able to attend and wish to speak to this, contact the Committee Secretariat at the following and tell her you wish to be a deputation to this item. Tell her that you want to be on the notification list, that way you should get the staff report when it comes out, the decision, or any notice to defer the matter. You can also send e-mails or snale mail to get your views on record, but being there in person is better if you can. Councillors actually do respond to a room full of voters!
Candy Davidovits
10th floor, West Tower, City Hall
100 Queen Street West
Toronto, ON M5H 2N2
email: pwic@toronto.ca
phone: 416-392-8032
fax: 416-392-1879
I'm going to see if I can set up a meeting with the Transportation Services staff who will be reporting on this. It would be good if a few more people could come along to represent different perspectives, i.e. legal issue with regard to enforcement, someone from the industry who may be able to speak to the economic benefits of the current free parking, etc. Please PM me if you are interested.
Please keep those e-mails to your Councillors coming, especially Councillors Mark Grimes, Mike Layton, Denzil Minnan-Wong, John Parker, Gord Perks & David Shiner who sit on the Public Works & Infrastructure Committe. You can get their contact info at the following link:
http://app.toronto.ca/im/council/councillors.jsp
In the mean time, I'll poke around and see if I can find out what's behind this. It always helps to know the inside agenda.
Here's the link to the Council website with the specifics of this issue. Click on it to see how your Councillor voted.
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2011.MM14.19
I'm very disappointed that they didn't give any more time for consultation, but I read the removal of "to harmonize them with parking for other motorized vehicles" by Councillor De Baeremaeker as an attempt to not pre-suppose staffs' conclusions. There's no question that we are facing an uphill battle, but it aint over till it's over.
If the recommendations are followed, this will be at the Public Works & Infrastructure Committee on January 4, 2012 starting at 9:30 in Committee Room 1 on the 2nd floor of City Hall. If you are able to attend and wish to speak to this, contact the Committee Secretariat at the following and tell her you wish to be a deputation to this item. Tell her that you want to be on the notification list, that way you should get the staff report when it comes out, the decision, or any notice to defer the matter. You can also send e-mails or snale mail to get your views on record, but being there in person is better if you can. Councillors actually do respond to a room full of voters!
Candy Davidovits
10th floor, West Tower, City Hall
100 Queen Street West
Toronto, ON M5H 2N2
email: pwic@toronto.ca
phone: 416-392-8032
fax: 416-392-1879
I'm going to see if I can set up a meeting with the Transportation Services staff who will be reporting on this. It would be good if a few more people could come along to represent different perspectives, i.e. legal issue with regard to enforcement, someone from the industry who may be able to speak to the economic benefits of the current free parking, etc. Please PM me if you are interested.
Please keep those e-mails to your Councillors coming, especially Councillors Mark Grimes, Mike Layton, Denzil Minnan-Wong, John Parker, Gord Perks & David Shiner who sit on the Public Works & Infrastructure Committe. You can get their contact info at the following link:
http://app.toronto.ca/im/council/councillors.jsp
In the mean time, I'll poke around and see if I can find out what's behind this. It always helps to know the inside agenda.
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Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
I wasn't talking about the revenue.
Revenue tho, will most likely come in the equation in a number of years, if it is a sophisticated implementation.
My bet is that they will go with monthly stickers or something.
I wasn't talking about the revenue.
Revenue tho, will most likely come in the equation in a number of years, if it is a sophisticated implementation.
My bet is that they will go with monthly stickers or something.
Re: We might lose free parking in Toronto
True. Depending on how complicated they go they may be in the hole the first year or two on this implementation. It's definitely a long term source of income.
Some kind of monthly or weekly sticker system wouldn't be bad. I'm not sure how they would deal with the hourly parkers, though.
Well...I guess this would be one way to justify a revamping of the entire system.
True. Depending on how complicated they go they may be in the hole the first year or two on this implementation. It's definitely a long term source of income.
Some kind of monthly or weekly sticker system wouldn't be bad. I'm not sure how they would deal with the hourly parkers, though.
Well...I guess this would be one way to justify a revamping of the entire system.
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
Don't give up yet. It wouldn't be the first time that a rational argument, backed by irrational pressure from voters, changed a decision
Don't give up yet. It wouldn't be the first time that a rational argument, backed by irrational pressure from voters, changed a decision
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
Then my job here is done :lol:
Then my job here is done :lol:
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
talkin about getting rid of parking dwntwn
talkin about getting rid of parking dwntwn
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
Damn. Guess I have to keep working on it then.
Damn. Guess I have to keep working on it then.
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
I would love to know the recommendations to enforce this that will be presented, I am not big in protesting but (specially in January) but I think a bunch of us need to show up at this meeting.
I would love to know the recommendations to enforce this that will be presented, I am not big in protesting but (specially in January) but I think a bunch of us need to show up at this meeting.
Veej
Well-known member
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
I'm totally in for showing up at the meet, perhaps admin should start a Sticky with this meeting and motion in the title to start putting names down and a countdown.
I'm totally in for showing up at the meet, perhaps admin should start a Sticky with this meeting and motion in the title to start putting names down and a countdown.
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
Why are you blaming Ford, he didn't propose this motion.
Why are you blaming Ford, he didn't propose this motion.
clutch
Well-known member
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today
I'd be interested in showing up as well. Is there a motorcycle/scooter lobby for Toronto one can join?
I'd be interested in showing up as well. Is there a motorcycle/scooter lobby for Toronto one can join?
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