Motorcycle Gang Confrontation

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Brian P said:
As far as police enforcement? You'd think it would be craziest right about now. I've ridden past four or five cops over this weekend in various regions surrounding the GTA. On a sport bike (that's all I have). In a couple of cases I might even have been going a little over the posted speed limit (gasp, the shock the horror, think of the children). And I wasn't even the only bike. BUT, my license plate is where it's supposed to be and it's legit, the lights and mirrors are all there and working, the bike is visibly in good shape and not a ratted out stunt bike, the aftermarket exhaust system is not obnoxiously loud, I'm wearing full gear not a ****** vest, I wasn't riding like an idiot. Guess what ... nothing happened.
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some things just take some time to play out
 
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TorontoBoy said:
Insurance deals in risk. The fact that a possibly catastrophic event did not actually come to pass is immaterial. The risk is there, was real, and only by luck did not happen. Insurance companies need to be compensated for taking on the increased risk required to insure a sport bike, particularly in Mississauga. In the next swarm a catastrophic crash might happen, so insurance companies need to be prepared for the worst possible outcome. If they did not prepare and a bad event happened, they would lose their shirt.
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What's the added risk of an event that made it into the news, versus the same event that doesn't get reported?

Thats not how insurance works, it's your paranoia working.
 
Well they're never going to catch the bikers unless... Someone has loose lips, or someone got a license plate number, or someone posts a vid. Otherwise it's history. Personally, I don't see it as worth pursuing with a big investigation. If the riders are that bad they'll do it again and eventually get caught.
 
Only thing I'd expect is increased enforcement of proper license plate display, and judging by a few other posts, there seems to be at least some of that going on. Bikes in rough condition typical of stunters, and riders with questionable gear or displaying certain logos, might get extra attention owing to fitting a certain demographic. Al Capone didn't go to jail for his mafia activities; they got him on tax evasion - keep that in mind. They might not have been able to get him for what they knew he was up to, but they still got him for something else ... and jail is jail ...

In regards to this specific incident ... I suspect the cops know more or less what really happened (or didn't) and that the correct person is in jail.
 
Roadghost said:
Well they're never going to catch the bikers unless... Someone has loose lips, or someone got a license plate number, or someone posts a vid. Otherwise it's history. Personally, I don't see it as worth pursuing with a big investigation. If the riders are that bad they'll do it again and eventually get caught.
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All it would really take is a U/C cop to join the ride with a camera running to put faces to bikes and actions.
The rides seem to be posted out in the open, or in a fb group.
 
PLau said:
All it would really take is a U/C cop to join the ride with a camera running to put faces to bikes and actions.
The rides seem to be posted out in the open, or in a fb group.
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one great upside to ****** vest is it leaves lotsa inked up skin out in the open for easy identification.. you'd think they'd think; but that's not usually their forte
 
Roadghost said:
Well they're never going to catch the bikers unless... Someone has loose lips, or someone got a license plate number, or someone posts a vid. Otherwise it's history. Personally, I don't see it as worth pursuing with a big investigation. If the riders are that bad they'll do it again and eventually get caught.
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If history tells us anything, it's that events like this don't happen in a vacuum. There will be more.
 
I don't understand the need for these unlicensed stunters to block all lanes of a public, and not allow legitimate drivers to pass them. Aren't they supposed to have madd skillz. Are the motorcycles stolen? Anyone recognize their old bike? Sorry, I'm just not very tolerant of stupidity on the highway.
 
I'm not sure anybody didnt think the bikes werent hooligining it up looking for their 15mins of fame. Neither the car or bikes are completely innocent in this mess.
What I'm dreading is the hillbilly justice when a pallet or paint cans accidentally flip out of a pickup in front of motorbikes that are doing nothing wrong, just 'deserved it'
 
Just saw another clip of it on CP24 from a car following behind the Golf and bikes and the bikes were stunting and general JackA$$'s.
We were discussing it at work; as to the girl being "assaulted" for that to happen she had to get out of the car and approach the Rider, makes me think she may have actually have been "Self Defended".
 
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Haven't read the many pages but in case this hasn't been told.

The woman driver admitted to assaulting the rider, she grabbed one of the riders by the neck, so the news of her being assaulted it was actually the other way around.

He was charged and none of the riders was, but I am sure this is irrelevant to those with the pitch forks against riders.

So yea... continue on
 
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I was told once by a cop that the moment you get off your car you have no defense, I guess it depends of the cop you speak to, because according to you she was justified to choke the rider? right?
Bike Cop said:
Here's a scenario that might sound a lot like what happened last night:

A group of riders took to the highways to do whatever it is that makes them feel special/invincible. They took over the road by blocking other traffic and holding other vehicles back. How would that make you feel?

One driver doesn't enjoy being a front-row spectator to the GTA stunt show, and tries to get around the blockade. A driver's side mirror is kicked off by one of the riders. How would that make you feel? Who's at fault so far?

Driver now has damage to their car and is upset about it. A brief chase ensues and some of the bikes and the car exit the highway nearby. The chase continues onto a secondary road. People stop their vehicles and have a physical altercation. Who's at fault so far? The driver gets assaulted, the biker gets assaulted. The passenger moves behind the wheel when the bikes take off again. Driver is left behind.

Chase continues onto industrial road, bikes successfully navigates a curve in the road, car... not so much. The car runs wide in the turn and vaults off a retaining wall, using it as a giant pipe ramp. Car is destroyed and catches fire.

Let's assume the above is the true version of events.

Who started this mess? Is this a case of two hot-heads found each other in the middle of the night? What would you have done if someone kicked the mirror off your car simply because you didn't want to witness their idiocy, or be held up so they can engage themselves in some sort of ego-stroking behaviour?

What we know for sure is that this is now the second case of highway swarming in two weeks to make headlines in local media. Police have noticed, and are expected to deal with the public outcry. What tools do the police have to do that?

Winter is coming.
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Just saw that same clip from CP24 those riders riding like jackasses and frustrating other driver give a worst image to riders and that video definitely don't help.
That clip mentioned someone arrested for drug possession and reckless driving? Was it in reference to the driver or the rider? Didn't get that part, I'm sorry :-(

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clyder said:
Just saw that same clip from CP24 those riders riding like jackasses and frustrating other driver give a worst image to riders and that video definitely don't help.
That clip mentioned someone arrested for drug possession and reckless driving? Was it in reference to the driver or the rider? Didn't get that part, I'm sorry :-(

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the driver was charged with dangerous driving, drug possession, and a number of Highway Traffic Act offenses
 
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clyder said:
Just saw that same clip from CP24 those riders riding like jackasses and frustrating other driver give a worst image to riders and that video definitely don't help.
That clip mentioned someone arrested for drug possession and reckless driving? Was it in reference to the driver or the rider? Didn't get that part, I'm sorry :-(

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SUV Driver was arrested for drugs and dangerous driving. AFAIK, at this point neither law enforcement nor media have identified the riders.
 
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The SUV driver made bail this morning. $5000 providing he stays with his Mum.
 
ZX600 said:
Haven't read the many pages but in case this hasn't been told.

The woman driver admitted to assaulting the rider, she grabbed one of the riders by the neck, so the news of her being assaulted it was actually the other way around.

He was charged and none of the riders was, but I am sure this is irrelevant to those with the pitch forks against riders.

So yea... continue on
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They also threw a cup at the riders, and then pulled alongside them in the curb lane to yell obscenities at them which is when the biker knocked their mirror off. So yeah, the car occupants are a couple of saints.
 
espro said:
They also threw a cup at the riders, and then pulled alongside them in the curb lane to yell obscenities at them which is when the biker knocked their mirror off. So yeah, the car occupants are a couple of saints.
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No doubt, makes me glad I did most of my stupid things in the days before there were cameras everywhere
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