macrider
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No it was a good idea for them, why not market a motorcycle tire for 2-3 times the cost of a car tire and get all these suckers to believe they are better!
We will get rich!
We will get rich!
More car tire(on a mc) fun
- Thread starter Wingboy
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For goldwings and other big cc heavy touring bikes that spend 99% of their lives going 70mph in a straight line.... ok sure.
For smaller cc cruisers or bikes that spend a reasonable amount of time on twisty scenic roads I think its not a good idea. I don't believe the sidewall on car tires is mean to flex in a way that would be required for it to maintain grip on the back of a moto.
For smaller cc cruisers or bikes that spend a reasonable amount of time on twisty scenic roads I think its not a good idea. I don't believe the sidewall on car tires is mean to flex in a way that would be required for it to maintain grip on the back of a moto.
Ya, I've got no issues with guys on touring bikes running up and down the interstate at 2.3 kmh over the limit (rebels!). It when they start in with the crap about them being able to corner as well (let alone better) that the same bike equipped with the proper size/rated motorcycle tires that I have to pull out the Facepalm of Death.
Or, when they try and deny that they're really just cheap bums.
If you've ever ridden a motorcycle with a big hoop on the rear like a Busa with the extended swing arm and 280 in the back hanging out or cruiser with similar sized rear, they have to acknowledge the thing corners and handles like crap. (I'm assuming this, no first hand knowledge but, have read articals of rider reviews which say as much)
To some it looks cool and serves some kind of purpose but, after a little bit, I'm sure you can "get used to it" and then start singing the praises of said motorcycle's capabilities.
A Valkyrie or Rocket are big machines that aren't chosen for their prowless in the corners. I'm sure they can be fun during the occassional romp and exiting some corners with wreckless abandon.
Who knows, maybe motorcycle tire designers will make a touring tire that has a tread life similar to a passenger vehicle? I just think a motorcycle tire is asked to do much more than a passenger vehicle under the best the circumstances. To expect motorcycle tires to have the same tread life as a passenger vehicle is asking for something a little out of reach. JMO of course.
To some it looks cool and serves some kind of purpose but, after a little bit, I'm sure you can "get used to it" and then start singing the praises of said motorcycle's capabilities.
A Valkyrie or Rocket are big machines that aren't chosen for their prowless in the corners. I'm sure they can be fun during the occassional romp and exiting some corners with wreckless abandon.
Who knows, maybe motorcycle tire designers will make a touring tire that has a tread life similar to a passenger vehicle? I just think a motorcycle tire is asked to do much more than a passenger vehicle under the best the circumstances. To expect motorcycle tires to have the same tread life as a passenger vehicle is asking for something a little out of reach. JMO of course.
macrider
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Car tires are far stronger than motorcycle tires.
Consider the fact that they have to carry 4000 lbs.
My bike is fine in the twisties ,I just do not go as fast as a sportsbike, why should I?
Scenery and enjoying the ride is my thing, not going down some twistie road at 200KMS an hour like I ve seen happen.
Consider the fact that they have to carry 4000 lbs.
My bike is fine in the twisties ,I just do not go as fast as a sportsbike, why should I?
Scenery and enjoying the ride is my thing, not going down some twistie road at 200KMS an hour like I ve seen happen.
Motorcycle Mike
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8 pages of busy-bodies who are overly concerned with what other people do. Who cares? Their ride, their decisions, their life.
Some of you guys nag more than women.
Some of you guys nag more than women.
+2...
It's all well and good until your decisions affect someone else.
Brag about no adverse handling effects (which I have trouble believing - and I know a thing or two about motorcycle handling), someone else follows your lead, but tries to do something with the bike that you've never tried, and bad things happen. Not good.
Or, take the bike with inappropriate tires to someplace like Deals Gap, crash it (and there is a photo sequence out there of someone crashing at Deals Gap and it's readily apparent that it was the rear that lost grip first!), and hit ME coming the opposite direction ... Not good, either.
If you make modifications that result in unsafe handling characteristics then you bear a degree of responsibility for the consequences.
I fully admit that I have never tried using a car tire on the rear of a motorcycle, nor will I ever do so. But everything that I know about handling characteristics suggests that it will have very heavy initial turn-in (it won't want to initiate lean) followed by snap lean characteristics once it gets up on the corner of the tread, followed by premature loss of grip due to trying to run on the sidewalls and excessive tread deformation.
Motorcycle Mike
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Decisions others make affect you hundreds of times a day, why is this one so much more nag worthy?
Or maybe we need a million more threads of people whining about every single thing someone out there does that in a very rare instance might affect you and that you don't approve of?
macrider
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Brian, you are a typical anti car tire know it all.
You have never even tried a car tire, but knows everything there is to know about how it handles.
How can you?
I communicate thru forums with several hundred other bikers that have car tires and not one of them has had and accident that had anything to do with the car tire on their bikes.
I can assure you that there is no "very heavy turn in" on my bike when I am turning or riding the twisties.
If you ride a sportsbike then good, do not use a car tire, but for mid to heavy weight cruisers it works great.
It is sickening how many of you know so much about something you have never done.
Its like someone who has never scuba dived talking in know it all crap about nitrogen or decompression tables to a fully certified diver with 1000s of dives under his belt.
You have never even tried a car tire, but knows everything there is to know about how it handles.
How can you?
I communicate thru forums with several hundred other bikers that have car tires and not one of them has had and accident that had anything to do with the car tire on their bikes.
I can assure you that there is no "very heavy turn in" on my bike when I am turning or riding the twisties.
If you ride a sportsbike then good, do not use a car tire, but for mid to heavy weight cruisers it works great.
It is sickening how many of you know so much about something you have never done.
Its like someone who has never scuba dived talking in know it all crap about nitrogen or decompression tables to a fully certified diver with 1000s of dives under his belt.
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Experience does not = knowledge. Or even understanding. Otherwise we would never have made it to the moon. It is quite possible that you don't know anything about running a car tire on your bike, you just do it.
This reminds me of that one time a claimed "engineer" cut out a chunk of his frame in two spots to make ram-air intakes and claimed it had no negative side effects cause he did it and nothing happened
People are having a discussion, if you don't want to read it then don't. This is a MESSAGE FORUM, where people post messages about countless topics and others come in and add their .02
Its like walking into a strip club and complaining that the women are naked hahahah
macrider
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I disagree with you.
Experience does = knowledge. Knowledge gained from real life experience is far more valuable than getting it any other way.
I do not have to give you any examples of this, you know what I am talking about.
I also know a lot more than Brian does about running a CT on a motorcycle because I do it. He doesn't.
Yes I just do it, I was worried too when I first put the CT on a couple of years ago, thinking I might have made a mistake.
But no, I realize now that it was an excellent decision on my part.
Sure its not for everybody, not for sport bikers or bikers with one track closed minds.
Sportbike riders and cruiser riders are 2 different bike cultures.
I have no experience riding sports bikes and would not try to tell a sports biker how to ride his bike or what damn tires to put on.
Why is it that sports bike riders think its ok to tell cruiser bikers what tires are ok on their bikes?
In any event Diesel is right, 8 pages of this **** is enough.
Time out.
Experience does = knowledge. Knowledge gained from real life experience is far more valuable than getting it any other way.
I do not have to give you any examples of this, you know what I am talking about.
I also know a lot more than Brian does about running a CT on a motorcycle because I do it. He doesn't.
Yes I just do it, I was worried too when I first put the CT on a couple of years ago, thinking I might have made a mistake.
But no, I realize now that it was an excellent decision on my part.
Sure its not for everybody, not for sport bikers or bikers with one track closed minds.
Sportbike riders and cruiser riders are 2 different bike cultures.
I have no experience riding sports bikes and would not try to tell a sports biker how to ride his bike or what damn tires to put on.
Why is it that sports bike riders think its ok to tell cruiser bikers what tires are ok on their bikes?
In any event Diesel is right, 8 pages of this **** is enough.
Time out.
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Do you think that tire manufacturers make tires based on "theories" or they actually test their product, you know, in real life?
I could put a track tire on my bike, tape it around with hockey tape and claim it sticks like glue. Now if i do this for a prolonged period of time would i be able to say i have better knowledge then everyone else around me since ive done it and they haven't?
They must only have book knowledge.
My viewpoint is supported by those of the engineers at the tire manufacturers ... you know, the folks whose JOB it is to know about stuff like this.
