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Marco Muzzo
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I'ma cynic. Did MM get denied bail or did his lawyer not apply to avoid public scorn?
MM will go on trial but I think the justice system will as well.
I don't know what the Muzzo family is going through other than the vague statements.
A few months ago a person I have known, liked and respected for decades did something criminally reprehensible. I don't want to believe it but there is evidence. I don't want to abandon a friendship but can't condone the activity or trivialize it.
What do you do when someone you really care for screws up to this degree?
MM will go on trial but I think the justice system will as well.
I don't know what the Muzzo family is going through other than the vague statements.
A few months ago a person I have known, liked and respected for decades did something criminally reprehensible. I don't want to believe it but there is evidence. I don't want to abandon a friendship but can't condone the activity or trivialize it.
What do you do when someone you really care for screws up to this degree?
The operative fraise being "really care for" you maintain a poker face, anybody else you take a slurp of your strawberry daiquiri and do a spitake to emphasize your disgust.
It's harder than usual for me to pierce your veil of confusion. What are you mocking? The public outrage? The Muzzos? This discussion?
No mocking. Just a virtual throwing up of the hands. A heavy sigh. nobbie 48 presented a situation and asked a question pertaining to it and the Muzzo case. Ever notice that even the most horrific situations at their core are really just banal? My answer is just as legitimate as a vetted 21 point strategy of the correct things to say. It is what it is. :sad5:
Muzzo will get a relatively short jail sentence and a lifetime driving ban, a terrible fate for a young car enthusiast unless he moves to another country.
- Same punishment for distracted driving causing death IMO. Can't count how many times 4 wheelers coming into my lane with their head down. Texting no doubt. A lot of right track riding these days.
Impaired driving causing death
(3) Everyone who commits an offence under paragraph 253(1)(a) and causes the death of another person as a result is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life. - Marginal note:Blood alcohol level over legal limit — death
(3.1) Everyone who, while committing an offence under paragraph 253(1)(b), causes an accident resulting in the death of another person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
You can't prove distracted driving like you can drunk driving.
Slim Jim
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Depends on the screw up, if they kill someone due to drunk driving, texting and driving, if they rape someone, then you tell them they are scum, and walk away from them for good. If any of my kids cause an accident that kills anyone, due to drunk driving, texting and driving, they are on their own.
Canadian Judicial System is a joke! If the maximum punishment for the crime of causing death while driving drunk is imprisonment for life, why then do judges typically give out two to five year sentences with a few outliers in the six to eight year range. For example Concrete Truck Driver in Alberta driving drunk kills five people and is given a five and a half year sentence; out on day parole after three years.
Here's a thought straight out of left field. The justice system is administered by people who live and walk among the general population they serve and on behalf of that population. Would you want a job where you needed around the clock police protection and how would you perform it?
That's a tough question for anybody who has not been in that situation. For me it would depend on the nature of the crime. White collar offenses would mean less to me than say a violent crime.
You said "what do you do when someone you really care for screws up to this degree?" So by that statement i'm going theorize that this was not a planned out crime, but rather something spur of the moment or the result of a bad decision. This something I may be more forgiving about. Really depends on the situation
With out sharing specifics what was the nature of the crime?
Iceman
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"Criminally reprehensible" says volumes. @Nobbie48, I think the only thing you can do is to sit down and have a heart to heart with your friend. See how remorseful they are and wether they are seeking help(if needed). Then you likely need to do some soul searching. Tough spot to be in, I feel for you.
Snobike Mike
Banned
I believe his family is rich enough to buy him another country no?
Snobike Mike
Banned
How about if you were the one who got ripped off?
Iirc, many years ago, I saw an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer's mom. They asked her how she could stay by her son's side after all the things he did. She answered "because he's my son". I thought she was effed. Then I had kids. I hope and pray that they will never do anything similar, but I have to say, I would be the same position as Dahmer's mom. Ymmv.
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You know what they say - you can hate the sin but still love the sinner despite them having sinned.
That's the part that is interesting. He did not say morally reprehensible. So that leads me to believe it's more of a white collar type crime.
I would be ******, but that would be personal at that point. What I meant by white collar would be like finding out a life long friend was embezzling money from their company or committed some tax fraud. Both crimes, both criminally reprehensible but I'd be alot more likely to find it in my heart to forgive those crimes as aposed to brutally beating and raping a senior citizen.
Anyone who talks about sins or sinners is somebody not worth talking to.
Then change the terms if religious terminology makes you squeamish - the basic philosophy is still the same.
You can hate the transgression but still love the transgressor despite them having transgressed.
Slim Jim
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I couldn't live with myself if I backed someone that ruined an enitre family because of pure stupidty, doesn't matter if it is my child, sibling, even parent.
