Trade Gardiner and Clarkson as well. Unfortunately Phaneuf and Clarkson have ridiculous contracts.
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Trade Gardiner and Clarkson as well. Unfortunately Phaneuf and Clarkson have ridiculous contracts.
Slim Jim
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Gardiner and Rielly are the best young defensemen we have. Clarkson is the only toughness left on the team.
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Clarkson is overpaid and useless
Man, do I ever miss Grabo.
Now there was a guy who always showed up to work and who always punched above his weight. He's obviously not one of the league's elite, but he's a solid guy and there was time when that guy was basically carrying the team (from before they got Phaneuf to a little while after) and look at the credit he got. He was easily my favourite Leaf, but he had the misfortune of being one of the first to give up on Carlyle. So of course they shipped him off for nothing of value.
They should've dumped Carlyle back then instead. Happy to see Grabo doing well though.
Now there was a guy who always showed up to work and who always punched above his weight. He's obviously not one of the league's elite, but he's a solid guy and there was time when that guy was basically carrying the team (from before they got Phaneuf to a little while after) and look at the credit he got. He was easily my favourite Leaf, but he had the misfortune of being one of the first to give up on Carlyle. So of course they shipped him off for nothing of value.
They should've dumped Carlyle back then instead. Happy to see Grabo doing well though.
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Slim Jim
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ya like Polak or Komorov are going to take on any of the tough guys in the league., Gardiner is still young, but he is still better then anyone we have. Gardiner and Reilly are the only two guys that can create a rush from their own zone, and turn it into a scoring chance. The pilon and Franson are useless, both of them give the puck away in our zone consistantly. I still don't understand why Smith is up and not Kozun.
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Carlyle's record of 21-16 this season, guy should be coach of the year.
Team has so much money and time tied up in the contracts of Phaneuf, Clarkson and Kessel.
Only way out of this is to draft better, way better. This has been the weakest link of the organization for many years.
I think you nailed it Ted. I never think of the business side. Logic gets in the way far too often.
Y'all see Polak's face last night after his repairs? Yikes.
I82l8
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I agree...and take the time to properly develop prospects.
Agree with last 2 points for sure.
There is an element of luck in the draft as well. It's like the futures market and crystal ball gazing. Past performance may not be a reliable indicator of future success.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008490.html
Terrible, might as well get Stevie Wonder to draft the team for them lol.
Terrible, might as well get Stevie Wonder to draft the team for them lol.
Roomie
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I thought he was already the gm based on how great the team is?
suzuki2000
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and this isn't even a true indicator of trades either. If(?) they could trade Phaneuf, he just might decide to play at the next destination, while you deal with the turd you got for him...
As far a the draft goes, finishing 9th and 10th in your division year after year doesn't get you any closer to the prize draft picks either
I82l8
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True dat, but look at the Red Wings. They haven't had a high draft pick in ages and they still manage to work with what they pick.
They also spend a lot less money on theirs scouting staff than the Leafs.
One of the huge ways the Leafs are blowing this is the way they actually don't use their financial resources in the ways which are perfectly legal.
They could afford the largest (and best) scouting team in the NHL. They could afford intensive player support (like Vancouver set a few years back up to give them an edge to offset all the travel they have to face). They could have the best analytics in the League. I'd have said hire a great coach too, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume the plan really is Babcock.
Hell, that last one's perfect for guys who're too used to the business world and aren't as sure of themselves in the hockey world.
They could afford the largest (and best) scouting team in the NHL. They could afford intensive player support (like Vancouver set a few years back up to give them an edge to offset all the travel they have to face). They could have the best analytics in the League. I'd have said hire a great coach too, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume the plan really is Babcock.
Hell, that last one's perfect for guys who're too used to the business world and aren't as sure of themselves in the hockey world.
I82l8
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Agreed and hopefully that's what Shanahan has been working on.
He did hire a young assistant GM with a new view on analytics, hope that that is not just window dressing.
One word: Culture.
The culture of the organization rolls all the way through from the front office into the dressing room.
Makes sense. The center has to be the most defensively responsible forward, helping out below the goal line if necessary. Wingers can hang around the points.
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