Long Term Care

My grandmother wanted a cardboard box in the woods. Also not legal. Legal cardboard box from a funeral home costs a disgusting amount. What a bleeping racket that is but that's for another day.

It is interesting to see some of the land world wide that has been dedicated to cemeteries. There is a huge cemetery in Sydney along the cliffs (Waverley Cemetery). The dead people don't care about the view and lets be honest, over time there are fewer visitors to the old graves and the new ones are far from the edge.

Historically, many cemeteries have recycled graves over time. Buried more than xx years ago, nobody is coming to see you, up you come and into a bone pile to free up space for new bodies (and income).

My wife wants to be organ donated/cremated. I am on the fence on cremation but will probably go the same route. Cheap to the end. A few of my aunts donated their bodies to U of T for medical research/doctor training. A good way to do one last selfless act.

Do costs get waived if we donate? I'm gonna donate everything regardless.
 
It's perfectly legal to scatter ashes in Ontario. You just can't bury them.
 
Do costs get waived if we donate? I'm gonna donate everything regardless.
IIRC, your family tells the school you are done with your body. School picks it up. A year or so later there is a communal ceremony honoring all of the people that participated in the previous year as they are done with that batch and they have gone to their final resting place (my guess is cremated but I don't know what happens after that). No costs to the family for any of that. Being cheap, I would love to get a donation receipt to offset final taxes (what's a body worth?).
 
It's perfectly legal to scatter ashes in Ontario. You just can't bury them.
But burning a corpse in your backyard isn't legal so how do we burn for free? lmao

IIRC, your family tells the school you are done with your body. School picks it up. A year or so later there is a communal ceremony honoring all of the people that participated in the previous year as they are done with that batch and they have gone to their final resting place (my guess is cremated but I don't know what happens after that). No costs to the family for any of that. Being cheap, I would love to get a donation receipt to offset final taxes (what's a body worth?).
Thank you. Guess donation is the only way so nobody profits off my death!
 
My grandmother wanted a cardboard box in the woods

I have a relative who got exactly that - cremated however. It's on private property at a place that meant everything to her for the latter half of her life. Her predeceased husband is there as well beside her.

It's nondescript and anybody that doesn't matter would never know where it's located as there's just a small marker stone and thats it. The relatives know and can visit. And we know that's where they'd want to spend their eternity. The chances of anyone ever coming across the burial in the next 1000 years is slim to none as it's way out there, but if that ever happens, well, the chances of anyone being left on the planet that cares anymore is very slim. It is what it is at that point I guess.

A few of my aunts donated their bodies to U of T for medical research/doctor training. A good way to do one last selfless act.

I'd have to think about that. I know the medical students treat donated cadavers with the utmost respect (my wife was one of those students back in her university days) but, I don't know how I feel about it so more as what the remaining family might think of my decision, more so than the decision itself.
 
(what's a body worth?).

A good one, or one like mine? By the time I die I expect to be so ****** up that I'd probably get rejected from the medical study facility because there's nothing not borked up or broken worth studying. 😜
 
I'm leaning towards donating the organs (supposedly already signed up) and then cremation. Cremation is not green friendly from what I understand. Takes a lot of hydro or gas to cook a body.

Fun Fact: My Dad was cremated so I took some ash put it in 38 shell casings (Dad was big into competitive shooting) and soldered a brass cap into place as gifts for both my kids. For anyone that's tried to solder a brass float you understand that it's tough to solder a sealed vessel. The first one I tried blew the cap and Dad all over my workbench. At least I know he's always around.
 
You can bury an urn in a cemetery. That's what we did for my grandfather and the cemetery allowed us to bypass the "only two coffins per grave as he wanted to be buried with his mother and sibling.
I should have said "other than a cemetery".
 
My grandmother wanted a cardboard box in the woods. Also not legal. Legal cardboard box from a funeral home costs a disgusting amount. What a bleeping racket that is but that's for another day.

It is interesting to see some of the land world wide that has been dedicated to cemeteries. There is a huge cemetery in Sydney along the cliffs (Waverley Cemetery). The dead people don't care about the view and lets be honest, over time there are fewer visitors to the old graves and the new ones are far from the edge.

Historically, many cemeteries have recycled graves over time. Buried more than xx years ago, nobody is coming to see you, up you come and into a bone pile to free up space for new bodies (and income).

My wife wants to be organ donated/cremated. I am on the fence on cremation but will probably go the same route. Cheap to the end. A few of my aunts donated their bodies to U of T for medical research/doctor training. A good way to do one last selfless act.
My mother did her own arrangements through a funeral service rather than funeral home. She was cremated and I got a call to pick up the ashes. I had the custodial rights to the family plot and arranged for the burial. It wasn't a lot as they just hand dug a few feet and let us put the box in.

For me it's mixed emotion about the land use. Developers would drool over Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Park Lawn, Prospect etc. Unfortunately we tend to look at them as spooky places. I regularly rode to Barrie Union cemetery to pay respects to my mother. Respect being the key word.

Urban cemeteries are green spaces that if used appropriately are assets to the area. I prefer them to a stack of high rise condos.
 
I'm leaning towards donating the organs (supposedly already signed up) and then cremation. Cremation is not green friendly from what I understand. Takes a lot of hydro or gas to cook a body.

Fun Fact: My Dad was cremated so I took some ash put it in 38 shell casings (Dad was big into competitive shooting) and soldered a brass cap into place as gifts for both my kids. For anyone that's tried to solder a brass float you understand that it's tough to solder a sealed vessel. The first one I tried blew the cap and Dad all over my workbench. At least I know he's always around.
Each cemetery has its own rules. Barrie Union was two conventional and a few cremated but only one headstone. Flat marker stones could be placed for cremated remains. Who can be buried in a plot is decided by the family member with the custodial rights. In other cases the family is consulted and can reject the black sheep.
 
To wind up this depressing discussion here are approx basic "disposal" costs.
- Burial
$10K onward
The "green" burial is not much cheaper and it appears that the cemeteries do not encourage this option, not sure if every cemetery has set aside "green" plots.

Unfortunately in Ontario the rent-a-plot is not allowed.

- Cremation
$2K onward

- Alkalinosis
No clue, it does not seem to be widely available.

So there you go, choose your poison!

I am not in the funeral or LTC business, am just a regular guy who rides a motorcycle and who did the research as a "just-in-case" to save the Ministry of War and Finance, distress should the inevitable happen sooner rather than later.
 
Fun Fact: My Dad was cremated so I took some ash put it in 38 shell casings (Dad was big into competitive shooting) and soldered a brass cap into place as gifts for both my kids. For anyone that's tried to solder a brass float you understand that it's tough to solder a sealed vessel. The first one I tried blew the cap and Dad all over my workbench. At least I know he's always around.

Unsure if I should use the like, laugh, or sad reaction. ;)
 
Unsure if I should use the like, laugh, or sad reaction. ;)
Love and funny lol

If an afterlife is real, anyone with a supportive father would be laughing their ass off in spirit mode seeing that story unfold.
 
If an afterlife is real,

I'm not a big believer in all that sorta stuff...but I've had a few headshaker moments over the years, that's for sure.

It's probably a correlation is not causation thing in the end, but they still make you stop and think, that's for sure. At least one moment in particular was a real doosey for me.
 
Was in conversation with a Funeral Director and this person mentioned that the people without the belief in a "Prescence" and an after-life were those that were the most distressed by the thought of the approach of the "impending event".
 
Met a hot stripper once that was studying to be a mortician.....talk about going out with a smile. ;)

I think I'd go cremation (like to stay warm)....stick me in my gas tank in the garage. Part out the rest of the bike.
 
Thank you. Guess donation is the only way so nobody profits off my death!

 
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