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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
I'm not sure if that was intended to be tongue-in-cheek or not. It's a bit of a reach to suggest that infants are responsible for their own safety.

In any case, it doesn't appear that they're even required to enforce laws, like arresting someone for violating a restraining order:
In 2005's Castle Rock v. Gonzales, a woman sued the police for failing to protect her from her husband after he violated a restraining order and abducted and killed their three children. Justices said the police had no such duty.

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Supreme Court precedent in Deshaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services (1989). In that case, a young boy was repeatedly abused at the hands of his father, something that county Social Services was aware of, but made no effort to remove the child. His mother sued once the four-year old entered a vegetative state, and the Court ruled that that the state did not have a special obligation to protect a citizen against harms it did not create
 
I'm not sure if that was intended to be tongue-in-cheek or not. It's a bit of a reach to suggest that infants are responsible for their own safety.

In any case, it doesn't appear that they're even required to enforce laws, like arresting someone for violating a restraining order:


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Ay caramba. Quite the rabbit hole you wish to go down.

Parents are responsible for children, unless it's at school, then it's the schools responsibility, unless it's on the moon, then it's Elons responsibility.

Now back to reality.

Police have discretion to enforce the law, it's well known and repeatedly documented. That freedom door swings both ways, far and wide.
 
There are other professions which have elevated status in terms of public safety that come with associated professional liability. Structural engineers and doctors come to mind.

It doesn't seem outrageous to believe that a profession that is uniquely allowed to use lethal force and which has elements explicitly organized and equipped to deal with violent domestic threats should have some professional obligations in the area.

There's still room for officer discretion. The bar for malpractice is pretty high, for example. You need to prove that the doctor's actions were so far from standard practice as to be grossly incompetent or malicious.

But the way things stand, there's probably no level of indifference, incompetence or even outright malice that would cause professional consequences for the Uvalde police, except in the court of public opinion and whatever political fallout it brings.
 
Peterson's criminal trial was just put off until Feb. 2023.

The precedents referred to in the links above are civil cases.
 
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Jayland Walker ME report is out. Police communications director deserves a kick in the head. The stupidity that comes out of their mouths while trying to justify police shootings is ridiculous. Although theoretically possible that one bullet could cause several entry wounds (through limb into body for instance), it's not all that likely and has no relevance to this case (original report said 60 wounds, ME now says 46 entry/graze, one bullet multiple entry doesn't matter at all to those facts). Fumbling for sound bites to justify actions just makes people more mad at the corrupt system. She should have kept her pie hole shut.



Walker “had several very devastating injuries that would cause death,” including injuries to his heart, lungs and arteries, Kohler said. She tallied 41 entry wounds and 5 wounds from bullets that grazed Walker.

Walker had five wounds in his back, but it's impossible to say whether those came as he ran away or turned as he was being shot, Kohler said.

Preliminary findings released earlier indicated Walker's body had more than 60 wounds. Greta Johnson, Summit County communications director, said Friday it was “very possible” that one bullet could cause several different entrance wounds.
 
No idea who was involved in this screwup but I suspect a lot of cases just went up in flames.


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Looks like it was vehicle and equipment storage, not evidence lockup.

Looks like there's going to be a spate of "traffic enforcement blitzes" in Durham to cover the cost of a new $1m+ tactical response armoured urban assault vehicle or two.
 
Looks like there's going to be a spate of "traffic enforcement blitzes" in Durham to cover the cost of a new $1m+ tactical response armoured urban assault vehicle or two.
So.... you're saying no change then?
 
CHCH News obtained the disturbing video of an Indigenous man being arrested by Hamilton police.
"We have the solutions to address our own community" was a bit rich considering reserves are well-known to be hot spots of criminality mostly free from prosecution.

The guy happened to be indigenous but if you make the cops run, you normally get the boots to the head.
 
"We have the solutions to address our own community" was a bit rich considering reserves are well-known to be hot spots of criminality mostly free from prosecution.

The guy happened to be indigenous but if you make the cops run, you normally get the boots to the head.
Doesn't make it right. In fact it makes it very, very wrong. Police enforce the law. They shouldn't be giving out punishment.
 
"We have the solutions to address our own community" was a bit rich considering reserves are well-known to be hot spots of criminality mostly free from prosecution.

The guy happened to be indigenous but if you make the cops run, you normally get the boots to the head.
The video is disturbing.

I'm not sure it's uncommon. I've seen cops react violently when someone assaults them or resists arrest.

Who knows what preceeded this, or what the guy was doing. We do know he's got criminal baggage and he violently resisting.-- it sure took a lot of well trained men to subdue him.
 
There is a board member on here that had a case a couple of years ago... He ran from the police.. high speed pursuit. He got away but was charged afterwards and tried... He was able to convince the judge that he has a legitimate fear of the police and is the reason he ran... "not guilty"
 
The video is disturbing.

I'm not sure it's uncommon. I've seen cops react violently when someone assaults them or resists arrest.

Who knows what preceeded this, or what the guy was doing. We do know he's got criminal baggage and he violently resisting.-- it sure took a lot of well trained men to subdue him.

it's human nature to try and save your life... What some see as "violently resisting" can also be interpreted as someone trying to save/defend their life.
He was unconscious for most of the video.. hard to say he was resisting.
 

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