Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

Shaman said:
What, I have to parse my posts so that they'll please you, now? I was not aware. Should I consult before posting?
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i once told a cop. "with the way you clowns treat the public are you really shocked when a member of the public pick's up a weapon and desided to get even"?
free troy davis
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

freedomfighter said:
i once told a cop. "with the way you clowns treat the public are you really shocked when a member of the public pick's up a weapon and desided to get even"?
free troy davis
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Lets hope we dont have to sit through 261 posts on what that cop does when you get pulled over with no license, driving 40 over, and you decide you have been "profiled".

Kids...
 
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RCMP is concerned about cost, don't you get it??? ... LOL

“There is a cost to [disclosure], and there is a cost to public safety to that. In times of strict budgets and in the tough economic times that we are in, it’s really difficult,” said Deputy Commissioner Knecht
 
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mxs said:
RCMP is concerned about cost, don't you get it??? ... LOL

“There is a cost to [disclosure], and there is a cost to public safety to that. In times of strict budgets and in the tough economic times that we are in, it’s really difficult,” said Deputy Commissioner Knecht
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We should switch to a more cost-effective legal system.. The criminal has to prove his innocence and pay for his own bullet (the street-racing and jaywalking scum gotta pay double) when he fails to do so :cool:
 
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Does anyone even take the RCMP top brass serious anymore? They have gone from being a well respected National police force to a joke in record time.
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

AdRath said:
What the hell... Sure the guy had a knife but I mean he is in a wheel chair. I wouldn't feel remotely threatened by a guy brandishing a knife in a wheel chair.
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#1, some wheelchairs are pretty agile also #2, what if he was a championship knife thrower? Can't be too carefull nowadays, everybody is a possible threat. But I agree, shooting a sitting guy in the dink, especially in San Fran, seems uncalled for.
 
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Championship knife-thrower? Throwing knives is highly ineffective in combat as anything other than a distraction. You've been watching too many movies.
I didn't see the clip, but I have 2 comments based on the story to make:
1) If he was still armed with a knife, I don't care whether he's in a wheel-chair or not, he is a threat. Of course, he could easily be blocked in and neutralized via non-lethal means. Just surround him with a couple of cruisers and where's he gonna go?
2) The story indicates that he was shot after he dropped the knife.. That would be severely uncool.
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

FiReSTaRT said:
Championship knife-thrower? Throwing knives is highly ineffective in combat as anything other than a distraction. You've been watching too many movies.
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I was kind of being flippant but still I wouldn't want a knife thrown at me if he knows how.
 
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Agreed, but a better option would have been boxing him in with 4 cruisers (hell, even 3 cruisers) and waiting him out. Another option would be a team in riot gear boxing him in with shields (which are specifically designed to protect from thrown objects) and having one guy baton the living crap outta the arm holding the knife, until he lets go of it.
I'm not a law enforcement professional but I see at least 2 non-lethal ways of subduing the suspect.
The reason they shot him instead is because he wouldn't comply with their orders and showed disrespect for their authority, so they needed to punish him for it immediately, so the other "civvie scum" doesn't get "too uppity" when they come up to the blue line.
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

FiReSTaRT said:
The reason they shot him instead is because he wouldn't comply with their orders and showed disrespect for their authority, so they needed to punish him for it immediately, so the other "civvie scum" doesn't get "too uppity" when they come up to the blue line.
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It sure seems that way. We're seeing it time and again. Sickos on the force. Bummer.

A police action should strive to de-escalate a situation, not ramp it up. Kind off reminds me of lawyers in a way. At first blush it would seem their job is to help resolve conflict but in reality it's in their interest to prolong it. Everything is weird these days.

What do lawyers and slinkies have in common?

They're both fun to push down a flight of stairs.
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

FiReSTaRT said:
I'm not a law enforcement professional but I see at least 2 non-lethal ways of subduing the suspect.
The reason they shot him instead is because he wouldn't comply with their orders and showed disrespect for their authority, so they needed to punish him for it immediately, so the other "civvie scum" doesn't get "too uppity" when they come up to the blue line.
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So sad but does seem to be the way it works now.

On the flip side, "suicide by cop" is also something our wheelchair bound friend might have considered and stabbing a cop is a surefire way to accomplish that. If he indeed did throw the knife down and then was shot that shows revenge and incompetence on the cops part. Don't hold your breath waiting for for their conviction. Wheelchair guy, if he is truly out of it then his life has been hell and will continue to be, if he is sane then his life is just going to be hell. No upside to this story.
 
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Imagine if the "suspect" had been involved in attempted murder and walked because of the cop's actions.. There's no excuse for what that piece of scum did. I hope his colleagues cooperate fully with the investigation and make sure that piece of scum is not associated with'em any more. The law enforcement community doesn't need any more bad press if they wanna rebuild the already defunct relationship with the community.
 
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RCMP? Shouldn't they have tazed him first, then kicked him in the head?
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

CruisnGrrl said:
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-59348--.htm#59348 why do some cops think this is acceptable behaviour?
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That's ****ing ridiculous....

Kicked in the face (which may add to his already present brain injury) for doing your god damn job.

Now on paid vacation for the time being.

More here... looks like he will get what's coming on this one.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/01/07/bc-kelowna-alleged-rcmp-assault.html
 
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He's gonna be the subject of a Rupic-style investigation where they'll twiddle their thumbs until he gets off on 11b
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