LA Fires

In Arizona after the Granite Mtn hotshot disaster fire ( nineteen firefighters died) they passed a defensible spaces law , no plants / shrubs / bushes within fifteen feet of a building . They would come in a clear the space and bill you . You had to have a fighting chance for the fireman . Landscaping guy made a ton of dough and you got used to the look . Nobody put bark chips around anything , just crushed stone .


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I don't think there should be. If there were something like that, I would hope it is a one time deal. Get a cheque and the land is now owned by the government and won't be rebuilt.

One needn't look far in the US south to find stories of people with homes in flood prone areas who have had their entire houses destroyed, get rebuilt, only to get destroyed again. Repeat every 3-5 years. It's just plain stupid, but it seems that the insurance free ride for this sort of stupidity is coming to an end.
 
I don’t know LA but assume part of the city is heavily wooded. Those woods have caught fire and the fire department is having trouble keeping up.

Evacuations are in panic mode with deaths reported.

Well known celebrities are not immune
The city is a low flat basin ringed by a short mountain range. The fringes of the city are hilly and covered either scrub and long grass vegetation. The hillside vegetation grows quickly then dies. The dry climate slows decomposition so the dead vegetation piles up for years into a rich supply of fuel.

This time of year the winds reverse, rather than slightly damp ocean winds, the city gets strong warm dry winds coming from the desert to the sea. These winds fan fires very quickly, and fire moves up a hillside 100x faster than along flat area. That’s why the area ringing the city is burning so fast.

I’ve lived through a few big fires. They are scary, the roar is unbearably loud and they move across the ground like lightning.

The communities burning are the most desirable in Southern California. Those elevated properties are spacious, escape the heat and dryness of the basin, and have beautiful views.
 
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I remember listening to a guy years ago and he had a list of about 5 simple things that could seriously reduce the risk to houses.
I can only remember a couple: 1-maintain a buffer between house trees/shubbery (I couldn't type that w/o thinking of the Knight Who say Nee)
2-use fire proof roofing like slate and metal.
They were all as basic as that. I wonder how many houses in that area would have met the criteria?
 
Well think didn’t take as long as I suspected. Content makers need content. Like watching a person drown and recording instead of throwing a life ring


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That's the physical damage. The much more costly part is that plane is down for weeks or more most likely. Faster if they replace the entire piece (which looks like a big part of the leading edge, longer if they get an engineered patch. If that damage is more than six inches, this may get classified as a major repair by Part 43, App A of FARs. Is the leading edge a stressed member on this plane? I don't know.
 
Well think didn’t take as long as I suspected. Content makers need content. Like watching a person drown and recording instead of throwing a life ring


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Hopefully they scan such content and bring down the hammer on anyone that posts it using drone footage in banned areas. Not them flying the drone, tell us where you got it... One can only be hopeful.
 
Duct tape!
Have you seen the bombers flown in ww2!
Could it be flying with a piece of tape. Probably yes. It flew home. If there is an incident, nobody wants to be holding the liability bag. Stall speed may be slightly different now and they aren't test pilots nor operating in safe air space to be trying to find the new limits. I'm not sure how FAA oversight works for fire fighting. Are they held to strict standards or allowed some leniency in the face of their urgent need? I would be shocked if that plane flies again without opening the hole more for inspection and a new piece of leading edge.
 
Could it be flying with a piece of tape. Probably yes. It flew home. If there is an incident, nobody wants to be holding the liability bag. Stall speed may be slightly different now and they aren't test pilots nor operating in safe air space to be trying to find the new limits. I'm not sure how FAA oversight works for fire fighting. Are they held to strict standards or allowed some leniency in the face of their urgent need? I would be shocked if that plane flies again without opening the hole more for inspection and a new piece of leading edge.
Get some tape from Boeing. It works for them. SF

No one is going to sign off on that without a lot of engineering. Imagine the wing folding and the plane crashes into an urban area, starting a new blaze.
 
That's the physical damage. The much more costly part is that plane is down for weeks or more most likely. Faster if they replace the entire piece (which looks like a big part of the leading edge, longer if they get an engineered patch. If that damage is more than six inches, this may get classified as a major repair by Part 43, App A of FARs. Is the leading edge a stressed member on this plane? I don't know.
Press conference said they'll be grounded till Monday, so... i guess there's a fastpath to get things done in emergencies like this
 
Duct tape!
Have you seen the bombers flown in ww2!
I was thinking some sheet metal with self tappers. Rattle can to match the color and we are back in the air.
 
I was thinking some sheet metal with self tappers. Rattle can to match the color and we are back in the air.
Equipment and crew were expendable during wartime. Ductape? I jump out of some very old aircraft, but damage like that would ground the aircraft until an engineer spent a bunch of time on it.
 
this is crazy - ppl left their cars on hwy and got moved by dozer to clear the path....


Guy would have been dreaming of doing this since he was a 3yr old 😆
 

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