LA Fires

Friends evacuated Tuesday to a friends house , they then all re evacuated later that day . They have the option to move to another house they have in Sonoma , which was rebuilt three years ago after the big Sonoma fire . It’s not so much heavily wooded , its brush and palm trees and all super dry with the ten year drought. LA has had less than twenty percent of the winter rain. It’s inconvenient for the celebrity rich , devastating for everyone else .


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Seems like a normal part of life there now.
Decades of poor planning (homes on hill surrounded by fuel), infrastructure neglect (electric utility has caused fires in the past by not trimming back branches) and a complete avoidance of controlled burns to reduce fuel load in a much safer manner brought us here. Huge amounts of fuel surrounding houses and drought. It's not if, it's when. Insurance will be interesting going forward. I suspect california, florida and a few other places will lose access to affordable insurance. While insurance is supposed to spread risk, it's not supposed to spread it across vastly different risk profiles. If your million dollar home statistically burns down every 20 years, expect premiums of at least $50K a year. Don't expect people in Arizona to pay more insurance to cover your desire to live dangerously.
 
Literally have a riding Mulholland and a hiking around Topanga planned in March. The scenery may not be as nice I guess.
 
It's like...BAAAD
crazy inferno. Neighbourhoods fully burnt down
 
I hear the insurance companies saw this coming... and cancelled huge swaths of insurance policies.
and there are backup insurances that the state has put in place for those people from what i hear... kinda as a last resort type of deal
 
and there are backup insurances that the state has put in place for those people from what i hear... kinda as a last resort type of deal
I don't think there should be. If there were something like that, I would hope it is a one time deal. Get a cheque and the land is now owned by the government and won't be rebuilt. Government offer should be close to value of non-buildable land. Take it or leave it. Paying rich people to rebuild their houses that will be burnt again is crazy.
 
To be fair, the attraction is living surrounded by trees in the hills not everyone wants to live in the prairies or some treeless suburbs full of track housing.... Not much different than say living in North Van and many other places

Climate change/low rain for years on end throws a wrench into it for these people.
 
To be fair, the attraction is living surrounded by trees in the hills not everyone wants to live in the prairies or some treeless suburbs full of track housing.... Not much different than say living in North Van and many other places

Climate change/low rain for years on end throws a wrench into it for these people.
I get the appeal. Sadly, the risk is high. You can do things to mitigate your exposure (fire resistant construction, window/door fire shutters, roof sprinkler, no trees or brush close to house, etc). Not many people do any of those. The cost of the risk is probably in the ballpark of six figures a year. Some people will pay. Many others will be driven to a place they can afford to live. I'm not sure many people want to live in treeless suburbs full of track housing but that's what they can afford so they do it. If someone can afford the insurance or to take it on the chin, all the power too them living in a beautiful wooden house on a hill with beautiful views.

My friends out west have a concrete roof and trees cut back to give them 100' buffer to the house. Sure they could do more but that is a solid start to hopefully not getting wiped out.
 
Was watching coverage when the fire first started. A reporter was doing a live interview with a resident. He was wearing a mask on account of the thick smoke. Mentioned a few things he had seen in his hood, and that he was getting ready to evacuate. As he was leaving the reporter asked "what is your name, sir?" The guy tilts his head back as he's walking away - "Steve Guttenberg". Dude! Call Tackleberry. Get him to swing by and shoot the fire!
 
I doubt any retro fits or prevention to the houses there, many built long before this was as serious an issue, would sustain what is happening now (historic levels). Even full on concrete bunkers unless they don't have windows maybe... Just look at where it has hit areas with Pueblo Revival/Santa Fe style buildings (or whatever they call them in Cali, Spanish Revival I think), they are gutted and they should be pretty resistant to external fire. Wealth or not it is devastating to lose a home to fire.

But what is the logic, say turned back to Canada, Fort Mac had it coming? Should have known better, made heir own bed.... They make enough money in oil, suck it up...??? Idiots for building with those material... Not what I think.

This is a climate problem added with cutbacks on grid, forest management, etc. The very faint silver lining, it will take decades for the trees to grow back so the fire risk in this specific spot should be pretty low for the near future. Rebuilding in areas of forest fires is different than say a flood plain as the disaster changed the future risk factors.
 
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Terrible.

Hopefully, rebuilding will involve more fire resistant construction. Tile or metal roof, brick or concrete or other non flammable exterior walls, tougher windows (or shutters). Earthquake is a consideration there, too.
 
this is crazy - ppl left their cars on hwy and got moved by dozer to clear the path....

Not trying to be sarcastic but it's the main reason I'd like to have a Honda Scrambler. Circa 1973 CL350 or smaller. Insurance optional when the dirty comes after me.

What does a person do when gridlock stops you in your path, politely burn in your car as you wait for a break?
 

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