Roadghost
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$800,000,000 for the WHO. As if this isn't an F/U to Trump and another attempt to buy a seat on the UN security council.
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Justin Time
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$800,000,000 for the WHO. As if this isn't an F/U to Trump and another attempt to buy a seat on the UN security council.
I thought that was on hold.....I thought there were serious issues with that plane.
that’s a sensible thing to do given we are in a pandemic
There are. It's a complete #%#$@show and it will be hugely overpriced and underperforming. Way too much govt contractor graft on that project for it to be ever viable.
Assuming the WHO is doing something reasonable with it, I agree. Given his poor performance, WHO chief should be working for free at this point. That should have been a condition of the injection.
The “poor performance” is something started in the whitehouse and I don’t buy into it. Their agenda is to deflect at this point.
No doubt trumpy is trying to deflect but from what I have seen, WHO was far too focused on politics and not nearly focused enough on health at the outset. They have one job. Health. That's it. They failed huge.
Roadghost
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I would prefer they give that money to Canadian researchers instead of some corrupt UN org influenced by 3rd world dictators.
What is the reference for the $800M WHO number? That was in the ball park of what the US was spending. Last numbers I saw for Canada was in the sub 100 million range, I think around $70M, give or take.
who told you it was corrupt? Consider where that’s coming from.
I'd rather have access to world leaders on an international stage rather than just our own little underfunded/understaffed corner of the world that is lacking in expertise in many areas. There’s also no need to reinvent the wheel over this.
They gave out plenty of warnings....a lot was ignored. Now they take the blame from some of those that ignored that advice. The UK acknowledged continued funding for the WHO weeks ago and has the highest death toll in Europe, you’d think they would be the maddest if it was someone else’s fault, they realize they only have themselves to blame though. The WHO represents the best chance at a coordinated effort to beat this thing.
The number of countries trying to develop their own solutions (to testing and/or vaccine) is staggering. I don't get it. Some places apparently have functional rapid testing. Isn't it easier and more cost effective to pay a licensing fee and use that solution than to try to develop our own (which we haven't done yet)?
I'm with you on that. Kingston just announced an in-house test developed with a 24h turnaround time. Whoopee do....that already exists, why did we need to develop another? Why didn’t we just take an already used and field tested protocol?
I'm not sure of the differences, but there is some validity to having multiple ways to test something, or having a local vendor.
-Double verification to rule out a false positive
-Less of a supply constraint if materials are different
-Avoids driving prices up if a specific vendor/source has a monopoly
-Can procure test kits from a local source rather than one further away
-Cash stays in the country instead of going abroad (maybe)
Those are all valid but as a first cut to returning to normalcy, we need at least one widely deployed rapid test solution. Those exist. The fastest way forwards is to license one and deploy it. It can be made here, you are just buying the intellectual property/research so you can save some time. If you want to keep working on alternates, you can, but the alternates are not cost is no object because they are just second line (although they may supersede the first solution if proven worthy). Saying we won't look at external solutions and are making our own from scratch is idiotic (and that appears to be the path that almost every country is following).
The problem with farming things out is that we forget how to farm. Never lose all the skills but don't reinvent wheels either.
Sadly many people in this pandemic are still concentrating on how this can benefit them personally......this needs to be stamped on. I don’t want someone trying a different test protocol if it offers no benefit and if one exists that works perfectly well, just to get a new paper out. This isn’t the time. This isn’t about stifling technology, it’s about getting the world back on track, keeping people healthy, before billions are out of work with widespread mental health issues and extreme poverty descends on every continent.
We need to create seperate threads for these discussions.
We've failed to stay on target and somewhere justin is laughing at the misdirection.
balls....I thought I was posting in the Coronavirus thread
Fine, to bring is back on track, JT should be spending some of his unlimited piggy bank on licensing functional technologies instead of buying 40,000 tests a month from an Ottawa company whose product currently produces unacceptable results.
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