Is Ontario Ready for "Right to Work" Legislation?

Yesterday michigan became the 24th state to implement Right to work legislation. What this means is if a workplace is unionized you have the right to not be in the union, no union dues, no collective agreement, you are out. I have first hand experience with the corruption of Unions, these are the unions that craft agreements below the laws and refuse to stand for you via the grievance process. It's time for Ontario workers to be liberated from the corrupt.
 
Beginning of the end for unions?
I don't see it happening in Ontario any time soon though.
 
right to work states have lower wages. yayyyyyyy! **** the unions! horay for privately owned companies paying lower wages.while the owners make.more money! yeah! **** the.middle class!
 
Beginning of the end for unions?
I don't see it happening in Ontario any time soon though.

If ontario wants to hang onto its auto sector they will implement this. Michigan did this to bring back its auto sector that would include taking it away from ontario.

right to work states have lower wages. yayyyyyyy! **** the unions! horay for privately owned companies paying lower wages.while the owners make.more money! yeah! **** the.middle class!

The US is printing 45 billion a month until their unemployment is down to 6%. Doing this will inflate grocery and other costs. If you are stuck in a union contract you will be left behind to be marginalized and exploited by the company. In ontario companies like union contracts as it fixs their costs below market. We are talkiing private companies not public sector unions which are really not worth discussion. This stimulus will bring back consumer demand in the US and that will include autos, sadly michigan will be producing the autos this time round, to bad for ontario.
 
I always figured a better solution would be automatic union re-certification votes (secret ballot) every four years--required by law. This coupled with a requirement that any member laid-off since the last vote also gets a vote during re-certification. The union executive would become better motivated to keep people working because it will help them keep their jobs.
 
right to work states have lower wages. yayyyyyyy! **** the unions! horay for privately owned companies paying lower wages.while the owners make.more money! yeah! **** the.middle class!

so i guess you're one of the guys with a easy job at gm making 35$ an hour for labour that should be paid 15|? lol

there's a reason everything is made in china these days
 
so i guess you're one of the guys with a easy job at gm making 35$ an hour for labour that should be paid 15|? lol

there's a reason everything is made in china these days

not really. I just don't understand the phenomenon of middle class people getting a big boner over other middle class people getting paid less so rich people can get richer. That's all. I totally understand it when it's municipal or government workers aa they are being paid with our tax dollars, but privately owned.companies? wtf?
 
not really. I just don't understand the phenomenon of middle class people getting a big boner over other middle class people getting paid less so rich people can get richer. That's all. I totally understand it when it's municipal or government workers aa they are being paid with our tax dollars, but privately owned.companies? wtf?

Jealousy
 
Actually, the difference between a Right to work state vs Non-Right to work state pay is 3% for the same work. How much of your pay goes to the Union? Oh right, more than 3%.

Ya Union boys fail to see that if the workers choose to be unionized they still can be. Nobody here is saying NO MORE UNIONS! You are now given a choice....
 
The unions line for the teachers striking is the government is taking away their democratic rights. Right to work is giving the worker his democratic right to be represented in the work place or stand on their own merit. Like it or not the worker is going to get his/her democratic right.
 
Every business and industry is run differently. You can't paint all unions with the same brush; the way they operate varies drastically.

In many cases right-to-work will cripple unions because if there are union and non-union doing the same job side by side, then there is effectively no more collective bargaining. There won't be any incentive to listen to the union members because they'll just phase them out with non-union. Either that, or the unions will make a collective agreement, and the people who aren't dues paying union members will be getting a free ride.

If you are a union member, you can't just choose to either pay dues or not pay dues. Without a steady, reliable stream of income, the organization will shrink and be severely limited in what they can provide to the membership in all aspects of their operation. It's just like going on strike. You can't have the members who inevitably disagree with the strike keep working or it will undermine everyone's efforts.

A lot of people have a very misguided interpretation of what unions are about these days. All they see every now and then is a blurb on the news about UAW/CAW, CUPE, teacher's unions, and I'm not saying that this is necessarily true, but it comes across as every union member of every union in existence is self-entitled and overpaid for what seemingly little work they do at their cushy jobs. The public sector is one thing, but don't forget that the vast majority of unionized private sector companies have to compete with non-union companies. The fact that they have to remain competitive automatically ensures that things don't get out of hand. And, in this case, if a union employee doesn't want to pay dues, they can always go work for a non-union company.
 
Every business and industry is run differently. You can't paint all unions with the same brush; the way they operate varies drastically.

In many cases right-to-work will cripple unions because if there are union and non-union doing the same job side by side, then there is effectively no more collective bargaining. There won't be any incentive to listen to the union members because they'll just phase them out with non-union. Either that, or the unions will make a collective agreement, and the people who aren't dues paying union members will be getting a free ride.

If you are a union member, you can't just choose to either pay dues or not pay dues. Without a steady, reliable stream of income, the organization will shrink and be severely limited in what they can provide to the membership in all aspects of their operation. It's just like going on strike. You can't have the members who inevitably disagree with the strike keep working or it will undermine everyone's efforts.

A lot of people have a very misguided interpretation of what unions are about these days. All they see every now and then is a blurb on the news about UAW/CAW, CUPE, teacher's unions, and I'm not saying that this is necessarily true, but it comes across as every union member of every union in existence is self-entitled and overpaid for what seemingly little work they do at their cushy jobs. The public sector is one thing, but don't forget that the vast majority of unionized private sector companies have to compete with non-union companies. The fact that they have to remain competitive automatically ensures that things don't get out of hand. And, in this case, if a union employee doesn't want to pay dues, they can always go work for a non-union company.

Look what to electro motiv in London. Unless ontario wants to see all its auto parts and auto assembly jobs go to michigan right to work will be implemented. The workplace of the future requires talent not workplace trolls who think they are entitled.
 
right to work states have lower wages.

But increasingly, right-to-work states have JOBS as opposed to not having jobs.

There's a reason why the auto industry has largely moved out of Michigan to the US southeast: Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, and I'm probably forgetting a few. And all their suppliers. I'm working on a job now that is shipping to a Tier 1 supplier in Tennessee (and which is building parts for one of the above ... I just can't say which one). Meanwhile, Michigan is languishing ... and appears to be in the process of implementing right-to-work.

yayyyyyyy! **** the unions! horay for privately owned companies paying lower wages.while the owners make.more money! yeah! **** the.middle class!

At several plants of the import brands, the UAW has attempted to get in. In every case, the workers have told them to get lost.

Honda has managed to stay non-union even in Ohio.
 
I've worked in both, Union and Non-union workplaces. I was represented by Teamsters and had a grievance of not being paid overtime when everything was documented properly. for an entire year that was being dragged on until i quit and changed careers. Teamsters promptly called me and told they are no longer representing me and the grievance is being dropped. How does me quitting a year later no longer make the grievance valid? As soon as those mother ****ers didnt have their hands in my pocket i was a bum on the street to be spit on.
 
very race to the bottom don't you think?

Well you can have a job that pays a little less, or we can keep sending them over to china and you won't even have money to buy their crap since no jobs will be left here.
Unless ofcourse you wanna work for the government hahahah
 
Well you can have a job that pays a little less, or we can keep sending them over to china and you won't even have money to buy their crap since no jobs will be left here.
Unless ofcourse you wanna work for the government hahahah

None of those things apply to me. Thanks.

I also make more than double what i would get if I worked for the government.
 
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