Is no ABS a deal breaker on a first bike?

[Karfanatik]

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For my first bike, it was a deal breaker not having ABS and honestly, I will probably will have it in the future. I locked up my dad's Monster 696 and it scared the crap out of me. I do not want to feel that again unless I'm fully leathered up and got runoff areas with ambulances nearby juuuuuust in case lol

 

[derekdel4]

Well white is the BEST colour for a bike.

"but black is so cool and bad ***"
and very cliched and not as safe (visible)

Why is white the best colour?

 

[mimico_polak]

Why is white the best colour?

It looks cool, and it’s the most visible colour on the road.

 

[derekdel4]

Makes sense. I was thinking black would be really hot to sit on hot days as well.

 

[timtune]

Why is white the best colour?

I told you - it's not a cliche like black and it's very visible making it safer. In a sea of black bikes a white bike stands out.

 

[bitzz]

Also my m2 instructor said it would be better to learn

Except, the problem being: Your M2 instructor has their head up their ass and is just plain wrong.

ABS is in NO WAY a detriment to learning how to threshold brake... actually it is a benefit.
On your ABS equipped bike IF you "over" brake, the ABS kicks in, you say "HUH, I applied too much brake".
On your NON-ABS equipped bike in the same situation you lock the front wheel, tuck the front end, and wreck your nice new bike.
When you get good at braking, you can ride your ABS equipped bike and never notice it has ABS.

 

[Evoex]

ABS is in NO WAY a detriment to learning how to threshold brake... actually it is a benefit.
On your ABS equipped bike IF you "over" brake, the ABS kicks in, you say "HUH, I applied too much brake".
On your NON-ABS equipped bike in the same situation you lock the front wheel, tuck the front end, and wreck your nice new bike.
When you get good at braking, you can ride your ABS equipped bike and never notice it has ABS.

Good point and as an instructor, I concur.

 

[derekdel4]

Except, the problem being: Your M2 instructor has their head up their ass and is just plain wrong.

ABS is in NO WAY a detriment to learning how to threshold brake... actually it is a benefit.
On your ABS equipped bike IF you "over" brake, the ABS kicks in, you say "HUH, I applied too much brake".
On your NON-ABS equipped bike in the same situation you lock the front wheel, tuck the front end, and wreck your nice new bike.
When you get good at braking, you can ride your ABS equipped bike and never notice it has ABS.

That makes sense. It’s just that I can’t find many bikes in my area with abs in good cindition

 

[derekdel4]

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Good point and as an instructor, I concur.

Its not that I don’t want abs. I do want it, the problem is the bike I’m looking at in good condition for a good price doesn’t have it. The ones that do are far away, more miles and do not have a safety so it’s a gamble to buy because who knows what they’ll need

 

[Chris-CJ]

Braking skills minus ABS is good.
Braking skills plus ABS is better.

ASC, a maybe.

Quick-shifter, nice-to-have.

Riding modes?
Prefer to be without.

IMO, this for street riding at a sane pace.

 

[Evoex]

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Its not that I don’t want abs. I do want it, the problem is the bike I’m looking at in good condition for a good price doesn’t have it. The ones that do are far away, more miles and do not have a safety so it’s a gamble to buy because who knows what they’ll need

All we can do is offer our opinions, it’s your decision.

You won’t burst into flames without ABS. But you may (I pray not) encounter a situation where you wish you had it.

Miles on a bike, especially a starter 300cc type are a non factor, IMO. In fact it’s to your benefit, cheaper bike.

True, any used vehicle is a dice roll. If you have a line on something you feel good about buying for peace of mind then go for it

 

[derekdel4]

All we can do is offer our opinions, it’s your decision.

You won’t burst into flames without ABS. But you may (I pray not) encounter a situation where you wish you had it.

Miles on a bike, especially a starter 300cc type are a non factor, IMO. In fact it’s to your benefit, cheaper bike.

True, any used vehicle is a dice roll. If you have a line on something you feel good about buying for peace of mind then go for it

I think I’m going to buy it. It’s non abs but I rarely will ride in the rain, mostly city riding to school and back. I used a cb 125 in the course which I doubt had abs and was able to emergency brake and control the bike. Went with learning curves in St. Catharines btw. Everything about this bike is really good and the owner of the dealer (Niagara race crafters) is giving me a really good deal. I think I’m going to go for it. People have ridden for years without it and I don’t plan on keeping the bike for years anyways.

 

[Evoex]

I think I’m going to buy it. It’s non abs but I rarely will ride in the rain, mostly city riding to school and back. I used a cb 125 in the course which I doubt had abs and was able to emergency brake and control the bike. Went with learning curves in St. Catharines btw. Everything about this bike is really good and the owner of the dealer (Niagara race crafters) is giving me a really good deal. I think I’m going to go for it. People have ridden for years without it and I don’t plan on keeping the bike for years anyways.

The course and the street are 2 different beasts.

The best thing you can do is take it to a parking lot and practice emergency braking so you learn how it will react to your inputs.

 

[GreyGhost]

The course and the street are 2 different beasts.

Do the instructors sweep parts of the lot where exciting maneuvers are going to happen or is it left as is?

 

[derekdel4]

The course and the street are 2 different beasts.

The best thing you can do is take it to a parking lot and practice emergency braking so you learn how it will react to your inputs.

There is a cb 300f I’m also looking at with abs but I was told it is very underpowered

 

[derekdel4]

Do the instructors sweep parts of the lot where exciting maneuvers are going to happen or is it left as is?

Left it as is with pot holes lol

 

[GreyGhost]

There is a cb 300f I’m also looking at with abs but I was told it is very underpowered

It's not underpowered as in dangerous but it is substantially down on power compared to the ninja. The Honda 300 brings me no joy, it's an appliance.

 

[bigpoppa]

There is a cb 300f I’m also looking at with abs but I was told it is very underpowered

its not, its a single cylinder with usable torque thats highway capable

its also very light at under 400lbs wet

 

[ReSTored]

Why start off needing the nanny state to help you.................

Always ignore this type of statement, which is more rooted in politics than good sense IMO.

The nanny state has screwed up lots of times, but in the context of motor vehicles has also given us seat belts, air bags, properly engineered crush zones in vehicles, helmet laws, etc......

 

[Evoex]

There is a cb 300f I’m also looking at with abs but I was told it is very underpowered

it will do the same job as the other 2, i wouldn't worry about it.

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