Inflation

FYI for you. With all of the issues around human rights, discrimination etc....... it is no longer acceptable to refer to fat people as "elephants".

If you must refer to these people at all, and I strongly suggest you don't............, please use the term "weight challenged" as opposed to a term most people associate with huge or massive...........
Is challenged correct? They seem gifted to me.
 
Slightly on topic (and yet, not), "shrinkflation" is a real thing these days with people getting less product in the same packaging, and same or higher pricing.

That includes leg room on airplanes.


Less legroom is now the industry norm. In the early-2000s, rows in economy used to be 34 inches (86 centimeters) to 35 inches apart; now 30 to 31 inches is typical, though 28 inches can be found on short flights, according to Washington D.C.-based advocacy group Flyers Rights. Seats have narrowed, too, from about 18.5 inches to 17 inches on average.

"Cattle class" has never been more accurate.
 
If only we could go back to the 70s and 80s. Plane flights were quicker too, no babying the jet to conserve fuel.

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FYI for you. With all of the issues around human rights, discrimination etc....... it is no longer acceptable to refer to fat people as "elephants".

If you must refer to these people at all, and I strongly suggest you don't............, please use the term "weight challenged" as opposed to a term most people associate with huge or massive...........
They were not fat people, they were elephants, the ones with trunks and really big ears.

For years some Air Canada's747 cargo jets had passenger areas upstairs, they were called combis.

I commuted weekly between LA and Toronto for 2 years, every Friday I flew the combi redeye. I got to know the pilots and crew, we'd often go into the cargo hold inflight when there was cool stuff... like elephants.
 
LA to Toronto in a single engine plane , that would be a long day. Especially with elephants in there.
It was a 747 Combi (with the elephants).
 
If only we could go back to the 70s and 80s. Plane flights were quicker too, no babying the jet to conserve fuel.

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Ya. You can't see them in this picture, but there would have been smouldering ashtrays in the armrests.
 
Flights where the non smoking row was the one behind the smoking row . Like restaurant seating you got a no smoking table 3ft from a smoking table .

Something I learned last month in Hawaii , they fly cows off the island in a custom 777. You can put 600 cows in a plane but only 400pasengers fit in a triple7 . Seats come out and it fits 600 cows. Apparently you don’t want them moving around inside the planes till they get to Texas or Dakota or where ever home is for a few months .


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Shrink flation has being going on for a while , the food industry seemed to be the first on board . Packaging stayed large to thwart shoplifters and the inside goods became less . It’s annoying


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Flights where the non smoking row was the one behind the smoking row . Like restaurant seating you got a no smoking table 3ft from a smoking table .

Something I learned last month in Hawaii , they fly cows off the island in a custom 777. You can put 600 cows in a plane but only 400pasengers fit in a triple7 . Seats come out and it fits 600 cows. Apparently you don’t want them moving around inside the planes till they get to Texas or Dakota or where ever home is for a few months .


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Let’s hope these seats never see the light of day then in airplanes…

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Created by Airbus in 2003 but I don’t believe any airline has used them…I hope.
 
Back on track…is anyone actually seeing the effects of an incoming recession?

Stocks are moving up and down. Houses are lowering. Jobs are maintaining. Prices keep up or going up still. Cars still expensive.

What recession?
 
Back on track…is anyone actually seeing the effects of an incoming recession?

Stocks are moving up and down. Houses are lowering. Jobs are maintaining. Prices keep up or going up still. Cars still expensive.

What recession?
Yup the manipulation games are still contiuning from the Pandemic. I just saw something this morning about cars, they can make more and supply them, but they are choosing not to have more inventory to keep prices higher.
 
Even seated it's dicey and I'm not big. Jammed in tight for hours is just not luxurious. I'm 5' 6" on my best day. What do tall people do?
My niece is visiting from New Zealand and leaving for home tomorrow. First to Vancouver and then fourteen hours to NZ. I have trouble spending that much time with people I like.
 
Yup the manipulation games are still contiuning from the Pandemic. I just saw something this morning about cars, they can make more and supply them, but they are choosing not to have more inventory to keep prices higher.
I read a small point on one of the REDDIT subs (so take with a massive grain of salt) that some dealers are keeping their main lots empty, while keeping their secondary lots full so that people have the impression of cars being unavailable.

I have noticed more and more cars on dealer lots though, with inventories slowly piling up. Not really at Honda / Toyota...but the others for sure are increasing. LOTS of pickup trucks on the FORD/DODGE dealerships from what I've seen.
 
Back on track…is anyone actually seeing the effects of an incoming recession?

Stocks are moving up and down. Houses are lowering. Jobs are maintaining. Prices keep up or going up still. Cars still expensive.

What recession?
A financial setback is a recession if your neighbour suffers and a depression if you suffer. Most are seeing setbacks due to inflation, groceries, gas etc. Some are seeing problems with housing and there's a lot of nervous talk.
 
Back on track…is anyone actually seeing the effects of an incoming recession?

Stocks are moving up and down. Houses are lowering. Jobs are maintaining. Prices keep up or going up still. Cars still expensive.

What recession?
Last time people were talking about it for months I had seen no sign of one until one day everything stopped dead. Phone went silent no incoming orders hardly lasted about 3 months then went crazy again.

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I think the gov't is still fumbling around and we're going to see high inflation and high-interest rates for some time. You can't run deficits and increase program spending by $12 billion without printing truckloads of cash. In addition, the ever-increasing carbon tax drives up the cost of growing and distributing everything -- including food. Spending, printing cash, and ever-increasing taxes fuel dampen the impact of high interest on inflation. The things that people need get expensive (food, heat, housing), while a few things they don't need (cruises, TVs, appliances) get cheaper. The gov't is stepping on the gas and the brakes at the same time, the ones hurting the most are those at the lower income levels, the ones punished the most are the middle class.

The last time the Libs gave themselves a pat on the back for good fiscal stewardship, it was because of unforeseen economic growth that cut Freeland's 2023 deficit forecast to $36.4 billion from $53 billion.

At the same time, Freeland also forecast the federal budget would balance in 2007 or 2008.
 
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