In Toronto? Really?!!

2000 years ago? Less than 200 years ago the legal age of consent in many US states was 10 years of age. In Delaware it was 7. Recall that the laws of the United States were based largely on Judeo-Christian values.

US law was more based on British Common Law than on writings from the Torah and New Testament. I don't know for sure but ages of consent and early marriages were likely more tied to abysmally low life-expectancy rates for much of the population in those days than biblical mores.
 
Maybe I'm ignorant but I still don't get the point. I understand that people married younger back in the day, but the onset of puberty was later (they were not full of all the growth hormones we consume today) so how does having sex with a 7 year old that can't possibly conceive a child help to replenish the population?

You would have to ask the God-fearing Christians who were at the helm of Delaware society back in the day.
 
2000 years ago? Less than 200 years ago the legal age of consent in many US states was 10 years of age. In Delaware it was 7. Recall that the laws of the United States were based largely on Judeo-Christian values.

In any case, 2000 years ago young brides were a matter not of ignorance but of a given people or tribe's demographic survival.

Trying to apply morality standards from today's societies to yesterday's is folly. Morality, especially in threatened or otherwise vulnerable societies develops in large part according to the functional needs of that society and what needs to be done in order to survive Child brides were a remnant of a time when infant mortality rates were almost the same as infant-survivor rates, and when overall lifespans were very short compared to today's standards. The survival of a society depended on its ability to keep its population at least stable and preferably growing so as to be able to fill agricultural labour needs as well as build strength in numbers to be able to ward off aggression from other neighbouring societies.

You could argue that in some parts of today's third and fourth worlds that this is still at issue even if only on small localized tribal levels, though clearly it is no longer so in any of the first or second world nations of today.

Sorry. Maybe my point was not clear. The point I was trying to make is that in society today, there is no excuse for child sexual abuse, regardless or religious or ethnic background. I assume you are islamic and no offence to you or your god, however there and many cults and cultures where this is still prevalent worldwide, including the US and Canada. Look at NAMBLA. There are may clerics in today's major religions who still practise child abuse.

Point is that it should really be stomped out, what happened 2000 years ago is over, and by advocating that children be protected today one should not assaulted.

If it were your child would you find it acceptable?
 
Sorry. Maybe my point was not clear. The point I was trying to make is that in society today, there is no excuse for child sexual abuse, regardless or religious or ethnic background. I assume you are islamic and no offence to you or your god, however there and many cults and cultures where this is still prevalent worldwide, including the US and Canada. Look at NAMBLA. There are may clerics in today's major religions who still practise child abuse.

Point is that it should really be stomped out, what happened 2000 years ago is over, and by advocating that children be protected today one should not assaulted.

If it were your child would you find it acceptable?

Nope, not Muslim, so you haven't offended me or any of my potential Gods. Come to think of it, you probably wouldn't have offended me even if I were to be a Muslim. Muslim adherents around the world may share a common book, but like Christianity, interpretations of that book vary among the faithful and not all take it as literal instruction on how to live today.

I would not find it acceptable in today's modern world for my child or any other.

If you were to have asked me six or seven centuries ago I might have had a different answer, but times change you know.
 
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That was a "Doctor" and he was from Europe, as far as I know. Was also telling people not to take their AZT, saying it was Big Pharma trying to poison them, and use his vitamins instead.

Nope. Priests, plural. From the U.S. All religions have fundamentalist nut jobs.
 
Nope. Priests, plural. From the U.S. All religions have fundamentalist nut jobs.
Cool, then you will obviously have references. I hate when people make stuff up to fit their agenda.

Edit: looked it up myself. :( There is no reference. I am disappointed.

That's not to say that Uganda should be executing Gays.
 
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Part of the problem here, is that ignorant people take a single sentence out of a thousand year+ old book, and have no context for it. So they make it fit what they believe.

Case below. Watch this beat down.

Saywhat? Pretty broad swaths your paintbrush is painting, there....

Go read Deuteronomy (Holy Bible, in case you aren't aware the reference) 21:18-21 and chew on that for a bit. Or remember, the shirt you're wearing is probably a sin according to Leviticus 19:19.

Your off the wall suggestion that all religious people of your chosen scorn are crazies is about as valid as taking the above statements from Christianity (to list but two of the many crazy things in their book) and suggesting that all Christians are equally as crazy. Some are, but that's another story - most are most certainly not.

Religion as a whole is messed up, but that doesn't mean that every person who chooses to follow their chosen flavor is automatically a psycho just because of something in their magic book. Much the same as most Christians choose not to take slaves (Leviticus 25:44-46), gladly eat shellfish and bacon, most of the "abrahamic religion" do not believe or partake in the crazy **** in their book either.

The Christian bible instructs a man to cut off a woman's hand if she intervenes in a fight between 2 men.

Just playing devils advocate.

I guess by your logic the overwhelming majority of Christians follow those rules as well, as well as the other crazy ones from my previous response which you have conveniently ignored.

Am I suggesting that there's not more crazies in one religion vs the other? Am I defending Islam, or suggesting it's not screwed up in many fashions? Nope. Hell nope. Nope x1000. Islam has some big issues, but What I am calling BS on is your suggestions (near "statements", actually) suggesting that the majority are as you suggest. There's a huge well of evidence to the contrary, despite the fact you don't want to acknowledge it. If you look at the stats (I know, scary stuff) broken down to this side of the pond, there are about 5.7 million people that follow Islam in North America, however short of a few crazies here and there (this video case in point), the facts show a blatant lack of evidence backing up your assertations that all of them follow their book letter for letter and condone the activities you suggest as basically a daily occurrence.

Again, facts. If yours were right there would be a nonstop stream of news coverage on the issues. Fox News would be all over it like a fat kid on a bag of M&M's....hell, they'd probably setup a whole new channel specific to coverage of it!

Continue with your preconceived notions not based on fact though. Much like talking science and facts to an Anti-Vaxxer, talking facts is probably a waste of time here.

Im going to guess you were a Harper supporter, all excited about the "Barbaric Cultural Practices" hotline phone number he was going to setup. Much like his entire election platform, all hot air and statements, little or no facts to back them up.

Until you are fluent in Hebrew translations, you should close the Bible because you aren't even close to smart enough to figure it out.

I'm not going to waste too much time on you since you are the smartest guy in outer space, but i'll educate you on proper context, reference, and understanding the time, language and state of affairs when it was written.
When the forehead is spoken of it refers to your thoughts, beliefs, it doesn't mean your hard boned forehead.
When you speak of the hand, you speak of a persons actions.
Now go find the original text it was written in and translate it directly instead of through 4 languages first, the whole sentence will change again.
If you think that means chopping hands off, then as i said, you should stop teaching anything before you get in trouble with the real boss.

Since you brought up Deuteronomy, lets see how much you know.
You say God commanded his people to kill other tribes, you are correct on that point, and that's where your understanding runs out.
Who were these other tribes? Like most people, you learned your lies from the church system and assume it was other humans.

So lets see Genesis 6 first.
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

We're talking about the Nephilim, giants, hybrids, demi-gods, their tribes of bastard children and the bloodlines right up to the present rulers.
It goes on to corrupting the dna of the animals too but i'll let you figure that out.
Here's your 36 tribes, http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...n-the-bible-and-around-the-world-2515152.html
So if you see those listed and Christians killing them, you should say thanks or you wouldn't be here today.

Deuteronomy 1
26 Notwithstanding ye would not go up, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God:
27 And ye murmured in your tents, and said, Because the LORD hated us, he hath brought us forth out of the land of Egypt, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us.
28 Whither shall we go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, The people is greater and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakims there.
29 Then I said unto you, Dread not, neither be afraid of them.
30 The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMQKF18atDo Watch this, and learn something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LxRtfQnzG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5-xnO0Qkkg

Now let me go see what other damage you've been causing.
 
Most of these things probably had a practical meaning at one point in time.

For example, if you lived in the desert 2000 years ago should you really be eating 3 day old shellfish? Or should you be eating pork as it putrefies instead of turning into jerky like beef of chicken?

But how do you get people to follow the rules? Simple, lets say god said it.

It it really applicable in 2016. We have refrigerators, freezers, saran wrap, ziplock bags, you can pretty much be sure your food will remain fresh for a long time. I would eat a pigs *** if you cooked it right.

Its 2016, get over these old books. Probably great advice for a survivor man episode in the middle of the Sahara but come on....
 
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It it really applicable in 2016. We have refrigerators, freezers, saran wrap, ziplock bags, you can pretty much be sure your food will remain fresh for a long time. I would eat a pigs *** if you cooked it right.

Plus the fact that everything tastes better with Bacon.

Bacon Icecream, Bacon Donut, Bacon Pizza Crust..... Doooh!!!
 
For example, if you lived in the desert 2000 years ago should you really be eating 3 day old shellfish? Or should you be eating pork as it putrefies instead of turning into jerky like beef of chicken?

That's not a big problem. You get sick and have the trots for the day. The problem back then was the bread, and the ergot fungus that grows on wheat. It has the same psychotropic effects as LSD........which kinda explains burning bushes, talking snakes, and where enough water to cover the Earth up to the top of Mt. Arafat came from.

Bread Madness-and Christianity
 
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That's not a big problem. You get sick and have the trots for the day. The problem back then was the bread, and the ergot fungus that grows on wheat. It has the same psychotropic effects as LSD........which kinda explains burning bushes, talking snakes, and where enough water to cover the Earth up to the top of Mt. Arafat came from.

Bread Madness-and Christianity

Well back then the runs could be a death sentence if it caused you to become dehydrated.

Similar things happened as late as the 18 century. The Salem Witch Hunts for example. Wild Mushrooms were a dietary staple and there were a fair amount magic ones consumed as part of that.

Now, where can i buy this bread that you speak off :)
 
Most of these things probably had a practical meaning at one point in time.

For example, if you lived in the desert 2000 years ago should you really be eating 3 day old shellfish? Or should you be eating pork as it putrefies instead of turning into jerky like beef of chicken?

But how do you get people to follow the rules? Simple, lets say god said it.

It it really applicable in 2016. We have refrigerators, freezers, saran wrap, ziplock bags, you can pretty much be sure your food will remain fresh for a long time. I would eat a pigs *** if you cooked it right.

Its 2016, get over these old books. Probably great advice for a survivor man episode in the middle of the Sahara but come on....
[video=youtube;sfMZ9sDXAp0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfMZ9sDXAp0[/video]
 
^Will put this on view list, road trip pending.
 
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