Importing a Motor Vehicle To Canada (the be all end all)

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What is the process of importing and registering just CLEAN papers from the US? Im about to buy a CLEAN title from a freind in the US, and he is just going to send me the papers...No frame no bike....

Anyone know what I have to do to register this bike in my name here? Is it even worth the hassle?

Thanks for any info never imported anything
 
NinjaNikki said:
Put it this way if some dude walk into the office to me without a good reason as to why he wants me to fill out RIV paperwork that should have been done at the POE I'm seizing the bike. In the end better safe than sorry I say.
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who do you work for Canada customs?

So if i told you the guy was up here on vacation, and i offered him $5000 for his bike, and he sold it to me and took the bus home
what would you say?
How could you seize the bike. The guy is there declaring it ready to pay taxes on it. Not like he is switching VINs or trying to pull a scam
 
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zc911 said:
who do you work for Canada customs?

So if i told you the guy was up here on vacation, and i offered him $5000 for his bike, and he sold it to me and took the bus home
what would you say?
How could you seize the bike. The guy is there declaring it ready to pay taxes on it. Not like he is switching VINs or trying to pull a scam
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They can seize the bike if they don't like your face. They can seize the bike for pretty much any reason they want. They have a ton of power, with very little actual oversight or recourse. Go in there with your head down and your tail between your legs. That's the way they like it.

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i don't want to go through 32 pages.

Does this process apply to buying a bike with an irreparable title?

I've been eyeing a race bike in the states with a salvage title.
 
zc911 said:
who do you work for Canada customs?

So if i told you the guy was up here on vacation, and i offered him $5000 for his bike, and he sold it to me and took the bus home
what would you say?
How could you seize the bike. The guy is there declaring it ready to pay taxes on it. Not like he is switching VINs or trying to pull a scam
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No I don't work for Canada Customs as they don't exist anymore however I am the Original poster of this sticky, which was written from FACTS and not my personal experience. While personal experiences may change, FACTS 9/10 do not.;)

To answer you next question. The guy here on vacation is allowed to bring his vehicle into Canada for personal use as a visitor under Customs Memorandom D2-1-1, tariff code 9803.(you can read it for yourself http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d2-1-1/README.html ) He does not have authorization to sell this vehicle in Canada. Therefore the bike is now subject to duty and taxes and seizure (officer's discretion of course).

Now zc911 think outside the box... if you were a Border Services Officer and someone told you the story you wrote above would you believe it? Keep in mind you hear dumb arse lame stories all day every day. Next question, would you go on vacation to the US with the sole intent of "going on vacation" take the time to pack, drive x amount of hours only to end up taking the bus home cuz some dude said he'd give you $3 grand for you ride?
 
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NinjaNikki said:
No I don't work for Canada Customs as they don't exist anymore however I am the Original poster of this sticky, which was written from FACTS and not my personal experience. While personal experiences may change, FACTS 9/10 do not.;)

To answer you next question. The guy here on vacation is allowed to bring his vehicle into Canada for personal use as a visitor under Customs Memorandom D2-1-1, tariff code 9803.(you can read it for yourself http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d2-1-1/README.html ) He does not have authorization to sell this vehicle in Canada. Therefore the bike is now subject to duty and taxes and seizure (officer's discretion of course).

Now zc911 think outside the box... if you were a Border Services Officer and someone told you the story you wrote above would you believe it? Keep in mind you hear dumb arse lame stories all day every day. Next question, would you go on vacation to the US with the sole intent of "going on vacation" take the time to pack, drive x amount of hours only to end up taking the bus home cuz some dude said he'd give you $3 grand for you ride?
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Why wouldn't you believe it? He's showing up to pay all the appropriate taxes on the vehicle and put all his paperwork in order. Maybe I'm just not a very imaginitive person, but what could he be trying to get away with in this scenario? He doesn't seem to be trying to avoid taxes or duty, or bring in a vehicle that isn't allowed by the RIV... What am I missing? What would you think that they're up to?

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Duster929 said:
Why wouldn't you believe it? He's showing up to pay all the appropriate taxes on the vehicle and put all his paperwork in order. Maybe I'm just not a very imaginitive person, but what could he be trying to get away with in this scenario? He doesn't seem to be trying to avoid taxes or duty, or bring in a vehicle that isn't allowed by the RIV... What am I missing? What would you think that they're up to?

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exactly
Plus i did call them up, and was told all i had to do was go to a canada customs office and pay the taxes and fill out the forums

So Nijianikki, never imported anything then :D Cause i did 3 cars this week, a bike 2ish weeks ago, 2 more cars ealier this year, a 1971 datsun, an 02 monster. Plus i have 2 friends that bring over cars almost every week

Ya experience counts for nothing:rolleyes:
 
Duster929 said:
Why wouldn't you believe it? He's showing up to pay all the appropriate taxes on the vehicle and put all his paperwork in order. Maybe I'm just not a very imaginitive person, but what could he be trying to get away with in this scenario? He doesn't seem to be trying to avoid taxes or duty, or bring in a vehicle that isn't allowed by the RIV... What am I missing? What would you think that they're up to?

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Duster, what happens a lot of times is people smuggle a vehicle in only to be met with Red tape when they go to plate their vehicle. Then they come back to CBSA to pay their taxes because that's the only way to get the their vehicle on the road. ;) So like I said before it all boils down to your story. You may be legit but trust there are plenty out there that aren't.

Z as for experience... let's just say most of us speed when riding and for the majority of us we've never been caught, but just because our experiences have been positive doesn't change the fact that speeding is speeding. So you take your experiences I'll stick to my facts.:p
 
NinjaNikki said:
Duster, what happens a lot of times is people smuggle a vehicle in only to be met with Red tape when they go to plate their vehicle. Then they come back to CBSA to pay their taxes because that's the only way to get the their vehicle on the road. ;) So like I said before it all boils down to your story. You may be legit but trust there are plenty out there that aren't.
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I still don't get it. What's the problem with that? In any case, they're coming in to pay their taxes so they can get the vehicle on the road. They can't plate it till they pay their taxes, so whether they do it when they bring it in, or after it's already come in, I don't see how you would care or why you would seize their vehicle. It doesn't seem like they're doing something wrong by bringing the vehicle to you to pay all their taxes. The system is set up to make sure they do the right thing. Seizure doesn't seem necessary.

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i really don;t think there is a problem with that. Hell tommorow i will call canada customs myself (or CBSA ,better NinjaNikki:D) just so we can find out the answer lol:happy3:
 
Duster929 said:
I still don't get it. What's the problem with that? In any case, they're coming in to pay their taxes so they can get the vehicle on the road. They can't plate it till they pay their taxes, so whether they do it when they bring it in, or after it's already come in, I don't see how you would care or why you would seize their vehicle. It doesn't seem like they're doing something wrong by bringing the vehicle to you to pay all their taxes. The system is set up to make sure they do the right thing. Seizure doesn't seem necessary.

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You're losing the point of my orginal post about this. All I'm trying to do is make you people aware of the facts do what you want and like it or not that is the way things are. Someone coming in to pay on their vehicle cuz the smuggled it in THEN found out they couldn't plate it and now is FORCED to pay on it is different than the guy who bought a vehicle off someone here in canada on a vistor visa, student authorization etc.

The point is the first guy committed the infraction upon entering Canada the first time and a seizure is applicable at anytime after the infraction is committed. With commodities it is reverse onus on the traveller to prove that the items in question have been properly imported not the officer. So really it's not a matter of what you think but rather the individual officer.

All I was saying to the orignal question (x amount of pages ago) was that I wouldn't buy a bike that hasn't been imported properly because you don't know why it is that the bike hasn't been imported. Buy buying the bike you then put yourself in a situation in possibly ending up SOL. Kinda like buying a stolen bike.

There are a reason rules are the way they are, so when someone tries to sell you something without following the rules it's always better to be safe than sorry and walk away.
 
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i love how it;s always up to each officers discretion. One might let you go, one might seize your car. gotta love it lol
BUT
i was told when i called couple years ago, that it was perfectly fine just bring the paper work to your local customs office pay the duties blah blah ect...

I do agree though, that it is better to just meet the sellers on the US side and import the bike yourself
 

"U.S statement of compliance (S.O.C Label) at the border"

"Make sure you have the required documentation: title documents, registration, sales receipts, statement of compliance label and manufacturer’s recall clearance letter."


U.S statement of compliance ?? Is this the same label as the
Statement of compliance label???
Who would issue the label?
Sorry for the question
 
I have bought a Concours 1400 ABS .
The certificate of compliance is covered by the middle section of the fairing.
The VIN number is also covered by the fairing, but you can still read the number.
Would I have to remove the fairing so that CBSA can check the certificate of compliance?
 
A quick question.
The motorbike I bought is new, never titled. So how can I produce a title ?...........Would I have to get the dealer to fax me a copy of the
" certificate of origin" for the motorbike??????
I found something at www.cbp.gov, under the exporting a vechicle section ,about untitled vechicles, but it only seems to cover USED vehilces.:confused:
Any suggestions?
 
To everyone who has imported a bike recently, what did you do for insurance? I have been told that you can't get insurance until the vehicle is registered in Ontario. I am planning to bring it home in the back of a truck but I am worried that something could happen on the way home. I am not looking to throw away 9k USD if we were to get into an accident and the bike were to be totaled.

Any suggestions or has anyone just taken a chance?
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