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I Almost Killed Myself Today On 11th Highway (Orillia)

been doing motocross and I bet none of you have done the hard corners I have done or the 15 ft jumps I have done at 70 km/h.
I thought my bike was good at leaning it wasnt, if I had been a noob I would had never being able to recover from that drag at 65 km/h in a curve no less.

There is the problem, You are riding the street bike like a dirt bike! Sorry that does not work any more than trying to do the 15 ft. jumps on an R6. Face it man YOU need to learn how to ride ON THE STREET
 
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Pretty sure he needs that alarm system even less now.
 
Listen to what? That I have to lean more? I already know that and always did, the thing is that i overestimated my bike that's all. You guys are talking to me as if I'm a noob, I know how to lean and can outdo or stay afloat with ANY of you here.

I have been doing motocross and I bet none of you have done the hard corners I have done or the 15 ft jumps I have done at 70 km/h. I thought my bike was good at leaning but it wasn't, if I had been a noob I would had never been able to recover from that drag at 65 km/h in a curve no less.

You more lean and bike less and yes there are those of us who do off road as well and not on prepared tracks either.

You stood the bike up in a curve !!!! and you are fortunate to be here as a result
- you accelerated up to 65 and THEN leaned.
....no you don't know what your are doing and the outcome proves it.

Listen and learn grasshopper......or in your case likely not.
 
With that low underslung exhaust of yours. I'm not surprised in the least bit that you were dragging hard parts.
 
Glad you're ok!

Scraping your muffler or footpegs means that your bike's leaning too much, and you're not. Good thing you were able to control it, b/c scraping footpegs/muffler can easily make you lowside. That's what happened to me at TMP, but I was on a CBR 125.

Almost did the same thing at TMP. Dug the peg in hard enough for the entire rear end to skip up and over. Instructor thought for sure she was witnessing a high-side in the making. Luckily my fat butt came down in time to regain control and keep going.
 
For example most dirt guys wouldn't think of trying to maximize front braking, because in the dirt that means washing out. .

That is so true, I was on a road in the process of being paved. I was travelling on the dirt and the part where the dirt met the paved was a huge lip of asphalt. I knew if I hit that at the speed I was going it wouldn't be good for my tire and rim. I applied to much front brake and I dropped the bike. It wasn't that bad of a drop as I held onto the bike and it stayed running.
 
I was out today and coming into an on-ramp I thought I would test my new bike's handling and accelerated to about 65 km/h and started to lean down and then "Rissshhhhhh!!" something in my bike hit the pavement and started to drag, I immediately pulled up but was only 2/3 out of the curve and mounted the low island and dashed across highway 11 lanes, luckily no cars on highway 11 at that moment.

If there would had been guardrails or a ditch I would be in a hospital right now with my bike destroyed. The leaning threshold on my bike sucks (Kawasaki ZR7 750cc). Im still trying to figure out if it was my muffler or my footpeg that hit the pavement, they are both scratched under them. Is this normal? I was nowhere near dragging my knee.
lol troll
 
By that logic I must be 20x the rider that you are.

Save the insults and avoid infractions.

There is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.

If someone called me ignorant and I require training I would find this offensive and a insult coming from someone with zero track record on GTAM. My guess is the op was going faster than 65 and his rear slipped on some gravel. This also could have happened if he wasn't leaning enough and was heading for the shoulder. To get out of this he may have leaned more and possibly accelerated to his detriment. If the op is going to be slammed these posters should back it up with something constructive.
 
Holy crap....like a lynchin taking place...lol. Sorry about your loss...man that sucks. Glad your alright.
 
Holy crap....like a lynchin taking place...lol. Sorry about your loss...man that sucks. Glad your alright.

Don't feel sorry. Like ItIsWhatItIs, Pegs posts ridiculous stories, asks for advice and then proceeds to insult everyone that bothers taking him seriously. Next time around, there's a few more GTAMers ready to take potshots.
 
If someone called me ignorant and I require training I would find this offensive and a insult coming from someone with zero track record on GTAM. My guess is the op was going faster than 65 and his rear slipped on some gravel. This also could have happened if he wasn't leaning enough and was heading for the shoulder. To get out of this he may have leaned more and possibly accelerated to his detriment. If the op is going to be slammed these posters should back it up with something constructive.

There was more to that post that you chose to edit out and, oddly enough, that poster's comments were echoed by those of others, whom I know to have a great deal of knowledge and skill. "Get more training" is a valid, and accurate comment.
 
If someone called me ignorant and I require training I would find this offensive and a insult coming from someone with zero track record on GTAM. My guess is the op was going faster than 65 and his rear slipped on some gravel. This also could have happened if he wasn't leaning enough and was heading for the shoulder. To get out of this he may have leaned more and possibly accelerated to his detriment. If the op is going to be slammed these posters should back it up with something constructive.

Did you read my original post or just the edit? I did not call the OP ignorant.
I stated that there is a fine line between confidence and ignorance and he needs to be careful of the difference.
If you read the whole post, I quoted where he said "Well if it's not mechanical I don't know what else I can learn". In summation I thought there was still room to learn so more training may be required.

I will say that I think it is ignorant for you to attack me for my opinion.
Without knowing me personally, you have based my skill on how long I have been a member of GTAM or by how many posts I have made. Now that shows ignorance in itself.
 
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Listen to what? That I have to lean more? I already know that and always did, the thing is that i overestimated my bike that's all. You guys are talking to me as if I'm a noob, I know how to lean and can outdo or stay afloat with ANY of you here.

I have been doing motocross and I bet none of you have done the hard corners I have done or the 15 ft jumps I have done at 70 km/h. I thought my bike was good at leaning but it wasn't, if I had been a noob I would had never been able to recover from that drag at 65 km/h in a curve no less.

At what point exactly do you figureyou recovered? When you hit the island or when you went flying across highway 11? Or was it when you realized that if there had been a guardrail. Or traffic you'd be dead?

You didn't overestimate your bike. You overestimated yourself like you always do

You're a terrible rider, by your own account.
 
i just wanted to write something in this thread so that i can say i took part in this beat down... so here it is...

" you dont know squat you troll, go take an advanced riding course "

thank you for your time everyone.
 
Or, one could argue, you wouldn't have gotten into that trouble in the first place. While some things about dirt riding translate to the street (actually more to the track than the street), the two disciplines are completely different. For example most dirt guys wouldn't think of trying to maximize front braking, because in the dirt that means washing out. Jumping doesn't enter into it, unless your last name is 'Knievel.'

A couple of days ago I say a guy on a big HD custom take a left turn at a light, at what was between 70 and 80 Kmh; roughly the same arc as that ramp. I remember being impressed at his level of control. he probably had half the clearance, that your bike has.

+1.
I could honestly say, I'm probably one of the more proficient dirt riders on the forum (and I still think I'm slow at it)... I'm more at the level of jumping 80-100' jumps... But get me on the asphalt, even with a few years on the road experience and quite a few in the dirt, and I'm nothing special. I don't let my off road skill set fool me in to thinking I'm better than I am on the street because they are completely different, and I haven't had "advanced" training on the pavement, but it's something I intend to do, as the street isn't the place to push it.
The only place my off road experience really helps on the street, is in the split second decisions required in some instances on the street.
 
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Listen and learn grasshopper......or in your case likely not.
He's not gonna like what you have just called him ...

tough - truth hurts - maybe something will sink in before he kills himself. Besides he "hopped" didn't he ;)
With 43 years riding I can pull some seniority in the grasshopper identification field :D.....not that I didn't do my share of foolish things.....there was this flat topped bridge near St Catherines - going too fast......first time I ever cleared the entire top.
Damn Honda Hawk sure took a beating on the landing but stayed upright. ....passenger had NO IDEA!!! ;)


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The only place my off road experience really helps on the street, is in the split second decisions required in some instances on the street.

and when to use what brake and not panicking at some gravel or being in the shoulder and ultimately how to fall. I suspect there is more use than you may realize. There are things long time riders do without even thinking about them

I think some dirt - even if it's on a road bike is good practice for when it comes up unexpectedly in a construction zone in the rain. All pavement can lull you.

Been a while since I'd done any extensive off road until this year and 3 months down under picked up some skills - not nearly as much rust whenI hauled out the Burgman this year. 200 km of rough outback track will get your teeth rattling on the washboard and test your mettle in the soft stuff that just sort of appears. Then the forest tracks offer an whole nother set of challenges including some unexpected whoops they put in to control runoff.
Gotta pay attention all the time.

Looked for the shifter a couple of times on the Burgman tho ....duh ;)
 
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