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I Almost Killed Myself Today On 11th Highway (Orillia)

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Pegassus said:
Well if it's not mechanical I don't know what else I can learn, I rode in a 3rd-world country for 3 years that have more dangerous scenarios than Canada and rode in 2 canadian winters IN THE SNOW, gave up riding in the winter when I slid on 5 cm of snow and fell with a tractor trailer skidding and jacknifing trying to stop just 40-ft behind me.
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Glad to hear that you didn't become a statistic.
You may want to rethink your prior post and acknowledge that skills on ramps may be something you are still lacking.:confused1:
There is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.
 
Pegassus said:
This is the exact ramp (streetview) from Google Maps, the Transcanada Highway 12 on-ramp to Highway 11.

http://goo.gl/maps/UMkl
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That's a good one, it's fun. Only advice I have is to walk before you run. Take your time to get acquainted to a new bike, they all do things a little differently.

Also, the height of your bike isn't static, suspension compresses in a turn at speed, and brings hard parts closer to the road. You should see my fat bike squat down in a nice corner.
 
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short stop said:
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lol, Dog (on ramp) takes out motorcycle rider. To lean that much at only 65 km an hour perhaps was the problem. Also you were on an onramp which means you were accelerating and leaning at the same time. On a 750 zr7 this was asking for it if you were too much on the throttle. Your bike is ok. You are ok. Hopefully, you have learnt something to elevate your riding skills.
 
Kedo said:
There is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.
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Says someone who has been a member of GTAM for two months, has only 140 posts, and probably rides a vespa.

:pottytrain5:
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
Says someone who has been a member of GTAM for two months, has only 140 posts, and probably rides a vespa.

:pottytrain5:
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Riding skill defiantly improves with post counts, you are so wise.
 
Kedo said:
There is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.
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ItIsWhatItIs said:
Says someone who has been a member of GTAM for two months, has only 140 posts, and probably rides a vespa.
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I've been here a little while, and have posted a couple times. I think Kedo nailed it, so I'll borrow his text and see if it earns some value in your oh-so-wise eyes.

Peggasausage - there is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.

Peggy - you're always good for a laugh.
 
klr_guy said:
I've been here a little while, and have posted a couple times. I think Kedo nailed it, so I'll borrow his text and see if it earns some value in your oh-so-wise eyes.

Peggasausage - there is confidence, and there is ignorance, :rolleyes:a fine line can seperate them.
It definitely appears that more training is required.

Peggy - you're always good for a laugh.
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Some get the silver spoon treatment, others learn by doing and from hard knocks. That's the way it goes when you make riding errors. On ramps have a 30 km per hour limit. He was going twice the limit. I have come to expect this kind of attitude from GTAM.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/10/toronto-most-hated-city-in-canada

Perhaps there is something to this.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
Some get the silver spoon treatment, others learn by doing and from hard knocks. That's the way it goes when you make riding errors. On ramps have a 30 km per hour limit. He was going twice the limit. I have come to expect this kind of attitude from GTAM.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/10/toronto-most-hated-city-in-canada

Perhaps there is something to this.
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Unless the sign is white, it's not a real limit. It's a suggested limit for the following section of road.
 
Brian P said:
When you shift your body towards the inside of a corner, it moves your center of gravity closer to the ground and this allows the bike's center of gravity to be kept further from the ground at a given cornering rate.

(Just because a bike is or isn't a sportbike doesn't change the physics involved.) That you did not know this, is evidence that you ought to be taking an advanced riding course.

Should note at this point that it would therefore be tempting to blame the bike, and a lot of people do. Correct riding technique (hanging off!) puts the bike more upright at a given cornering speed and that reduces the loading on the suspension!!

It's up to the rider to make the best use of the bike, and that's why you need to know how to do it ...
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This is very good advice.

Also.....

Also one of the worst things you can do in this situation is to decrease the throttle, that will even further decrease available ground clerance
 
Restating what others have said, body positioning is everything. Some riders, when experimenting with how far their bike can lean, have a tendency to lean their body away from the ground. This in turn increases the lean angle of the bike, which is not a good thing. Another reason that this bike could be leaning more in the same curve is that it simply weighs more than your dual sport. More weight = more lean angle for the same cornering speed. Lastly, though you are probably already aware of this, many ramps are what are known as decreasing radius turns. Some can be subtle about it, so you may enter it at a speed where it seems okay, and then find that you've run of out lean by the end.

Ride safe.
 
Perhaps you hit a piece of debris or pavement ripple that unsettled the suspension. Stock streetbike suspensions are usually terrible, so it would be plausible even at 65 km/hr.

A zr7s will have less clearance than a dualsport, but it's still a fairly sporty bike.
 
OMG, you almost fell on that curve?
And you have nothing to learn?

Keep riding. Keep not learning.




Pegassus said:
Never in a million years I thought it would scrape the ground, I wasn't leaning too much from my point of view, my bike looks as high as a supersport and even higher than a few of them, why do I need a supersport to lean closer to the ground?

Also how do me leaning and not my bike help overcome a curve at high speeds? With my old bike (dual-sport) I could pass these ramps at higher speeds like child's play because I could lean on it way more.





This is the exact ramp (streetview) from Google Maps, the Transcanada Highway 12 on-ramp to Highway 11.


http://goo.gl/maps/UMkl
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Carmen said:
The sport bike community has created an environment where "Chicken Strips" are a badge of dishonor. Consequently many young riders are pushing it more than they should and paying with their skin and some times their lives. Slow down, enjoy your self. Live to ride another day and grow to ripe a old age.
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+1 to this. Riders really shouldn't feel pressured by anybody to ride outside their limits or it'll mean trouble.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
Says someone who has been a member of GTAM for two months, has only 140 posts, and probably rides a vespa.

:pottytrain5:
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With 750 posts, I still wouldn't trust your advice. You would just send him the to HR department
 
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