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How to keep young people from turning to ISIS?

Glad to hear they'd take the same approach as sonny,myself, and a few others in this thread take in providing our opinions and supporting evidence when attempting to engage the deniers herein.

I just stopped caring about other's religion and my own. I worship nothing now. If there is a god(s) out there I don't think they care what we do everyday. I don't think they care if we eat an animal or incorporate them in every life's decision. At most, I think they care if we know internally what we are doing is moral and right.

If you want to worship something go right ahead. Just don't worship in front of me or talk to me about it. /end
 
I suspect NATO leadership is publicaly angry at turkey for not stopping ISIS from crossing into syria from turkey... but privately pressuring turkey to maintain a blind eye... How else would the justify ridiculously large military spending

When is the Muslim community going to do something about this? People seem to be flocking (for whatever reason) to go and join Isis in this desire to bring back some mystical, golden age of Islam:

"In fact, much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the apocalypse."

From:
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Now... Why are Muslims and newly converted Muslims flocking to ISIS and no Muslims seem to be flocking over there to fight them? Why is that? If there is only "one Islam" then why would other Muslims not want to help their subjugated Brothers and Sisters who are being slaughtered by ISIS?

Is it because Muslims might want to bring back a state such as the one which ISIS is forming? Is is really because they see ISIS taking out the non-believers as many pray to do daily?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/13/muslims-shouldnt-pray-to-defeat-non-muslims

What do Muslims expect the West to do when ISIS crosses into Turkey and defacto have now invaded a European nation?
 
Mmm didnt turkey send some of isis to syria? How is it an invasion if they are returning to sender?

plus groups like ISIS and Alnusra (alqaeda) were being praised by our politicians and media for helping fight the "tyrant" assad remember that?

i truly believe that the CORE of ISIS is a covert unit, the rest of the lunatics flocked to it later on.. but the core group don't buy the coincidental streak of luck they've been having... too disciplined.
why should innocent muslims stick their heads out to fight a covert cia unit? if you look at ISIS pic of them praying they are praying in all different directions.. just because they say something to implicate a group or faith doesn't mean its true.. let the US marines go and kill their CIA counter parts and vice-versa...

ISIS was being ignored until it started thinking for itself instead of taking orders anyway.

muslims expect turkey along with the other sponsors of ISIS/Alnusra to take back their terrorists

you are once again using articles already considered to be nonsensical.. am sure those have been posted here time and time again.

“O Allah, give victory to our brothers the Muslims, the oppressed, the tyrannized and the ‘Mujahedeen’ (those who fight jihad against non-Muslims)”.

hmm the oppressed could the speaker be talking about the palestinians/afghans/saudi/egyptian muslims

the tyrannized.. you really can't think of a country were muslims are being oppressed by tyrants?

definition of a mujahid

http://www.islamcan.com/common-questions-about-islam/what-does-jihad-mean.shtml#.VPZCXCkrPd4


"The essential meaning of Jihad is the spiritual, psychological, and physical effort we exert to be close to God and thus achieve a just and harmonious society. Jihad literally means "striving" or "struggle" and is shorthand for Jihad fi Sabeel Allah (struggle for God's cause). In a sense, every Muslim is a Mujahid, one who strives for God and justice."


please stop posting the same stuff over and over again.. its unnecessarily boring.
 
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When is the Muslim community going to do something about this? People seem to be flocking (for whatever reason) to go and join Isis in this desire to bring back some mystical, golden age of Islam:

"In fact, much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the apocalypse."

From:
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Now... Why are Muslims and newly converted Muslims flocking to ISIS and no Muslims seem to be flocking over there to fight them? Why is that? If there is only "one Islam" then why would other Muslims not want to help their subjugated Brothers and Sisters who are being slaughtered by ISIS?

Is it because Muslims might want to bring back a state such as the one which ISIS is forming? Is is really because they see ISIS taking out the non-believers as many pray to do daily?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/13/muslims-shouldnt-pray-to-defeat-non-muslims

What do Muslims expect the West to do when ISIS crosses into Turkey and defacto have now invaded a European nation?

Not true...plenty of Jordanians are fighting ISIS, plenty of Turks went across to fight ISIS when they took a town near the border. Plenty of muslims don't like ISIS or what they stand for at all and some of them are willing to back it up by fighting against them.
 
Ive noticed zoodles from time to time throws this stuff at us and then changes his tone.. a few days later more islamophobic crap.. then more normalization(comon sense).. then more islamophobic crap...
 
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Should be interesting to see what happens with this......

http://www.wsj.com/articles/boston-m...WhatsNewsFifth

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Boston Marathon Bombing Trial to Begin Wednesday

Accused bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev faces potential death penalty

BOSTON—Nearly two years after a pair of deadly explosions tore through the crowd at the Boston Marathon finish line, the trial of accused bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is set to get under way Wednesday with a potential death penalty hanging in the balance.

Attorneys are expected to make opening statements Wednesday morning, a day after federal Judge George O’Toole empaneled a jury. The jury of 10 women and eight men, including alternates, was chosen from an original pool of 1,373 people in a painstaking process that began Jan. 5.

The judge spent weeks interviewing individual candidates to find jurors who said they could keep an open mind about the high-profile case and would consider capital punishment for Mr. Tsarnaev if he is convicted.

The 21-year-old has pleaded not guilty to 30 charges connected to the April 2013 attack and the fatal shooting of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer days later. The bombing killed three and wounded more than 260.

The trial is expected to last into June, Judge O’Toole said recently.

It is the most closely followed trial in Boston since the conviction of notorious mob boss James “Whitey” Bulger in August 2013. Authorities believe Mr. Tsarnaev, 19 years old at the time of the attack, worked alongside his older brother Tamerlan to plant two homemade pressure-cooker bombs at the marathon finish line. Authorities also believe the brothers shot and killed the MIT officer during an attempt to flee the Boston area days later, after they were identified by surveillance photos.

Prosecutors are expected to argue Mr. Tsarnaev was a willing participant who wanted to avenge Muslim deaths and bantered with friends in the bombing’s aftermath. At the time, authorities were engaged in an intense manhunt while Boston mourned the victims, including 8-year-old Martin Richard, who was killed on the scene along with two women, ages 23 and 29.

The defense is expected to portray Mr. Tsarnaev as the pawn of Tamerlan, who died at age 26 following a shootout with police during the brothers’ capture.

Tamerlan was the “lead conspirator” and the person who “started this whole thing,” defense attorney David Bruck said during a hearing Monday. He was responding to a prosecution argument that the defense shouldn’t be able to make that case until a potential sentencing phase. If Mr. Tsarnaev is convicted, the same jury will hear arguments and evidence before deciding if he should be executed.

Judge O’Toole has yet to rule on that and other lingering issues, including the latest defense request to move the trial out of Massachusetts. The defense has repeatedly argued Mr. Tsarnaev can’t get a fair trial in Boston, and the judge has denied each request.

On Tuesday, a total of 64 jurors, known only by their number, sat quietly on benches in the courtroom while attorneys for both sides huddled quietly, passing around paperwork and exercising their right to cut 23 jurors per side without giving a reason. Mr. Tsarnaev, dressed in a gray blazer, appeared engaged in the process, holding a pen and talking closely with his attorney Miriam Conrad.

Jim Frias, a 41-year-old Pepsi delivery driver who was sent home Tuesday, said he was relieved he wasn’t named for the jury. “You have a family and kids, you want to be home with them,” he said while leaving the federal courthouse.

Write to Jon Kamp at jon.kamp@wsj.com<mailto:jon.kamp@wsj.com>
 
It will be a cold day in hell before he walk free... guilty or not.. I don't know the specifics but anyone accused of terrorism in the states is never gonna walk free guilty or not is irrelevant..

on the other hand bin ladins trial would've been interesting... would they have allowed him to present evidence and testify?
 
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^^ Very clever of the defense...the turds brother was killed and so they are blaming everything on someone they can never question.
 
^^ Very clever of the defense...the turds brother was killed and so they are blaming everything on someone they can never question.

Doesn't matter. He put himself there. He'll fry. Even if the other idiot brother was alive, they'd both fry. Good riddance.
 
Ive noticed zoodles from time to time throws this stuff at us and then changes his tone.. a few days later more islamophobic crap.. then more normalization(comon sense).. then more islamophobic crap...


So... If I agree with you it is common sense. If it is something you don't like it is Islamophobia? Got it...
 
Doesn't matter. He put himself there. He'll fry. Even if the other idiot brother was alive, they'd both fry. Good riddance.

They should never fry. They want to die in martyrdom. Killing them gives them what they want. This is one type of case where I am happy to see them rot for life in a cell. Deny them what they want for as long as possible.

I also think our military should try not shoot to kill, when possible shoot to cripple, deny them martyrdom but I take them out of the fight....
 
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They should never fry. They want to die in martyrdom. Killing them gives them what they want. This is one type of case where I am happy to see them rot for life in a cell. Deny them what they want for as long as possible.

I also think our military should try not shoot to kill, when possible shoot to cripple, deny them martyrdom but I take them out of the fight....

+1 No ****. Try Preparation H Cooling Gel.
 
Careful... That might not be a common sense link and you might be accused of being boring...
 
Huh?
 
Very sad thing you posted though. A loss to archeology and humanity.

Yes and no. Everything has a history. The broken bits will be the new history. They'll go along with a neat albeit predictable story. Also on the plus side, more to go around and pocket sized.
 

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