Helmet Styles

[Dr.Manhattan]

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The Sikhs riders lobbied and got it changed in BC first which became the precedent in Canada. Anyone that's been or lived in BC knows its predominantly Sikhs living their now anyhow.

One of their biggest claims was that they wore turbans during World Wars and they were proficient in stopping bullets......yea ok. I wouldn't care so much until they scrape their faces off and then it weighs on our free health care.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Helmet protects your head. Helmut is an ironman from Dundas.

FTFY

 

[Michael0124]

Turbans are great if you have nothing worth protecting. I always love this pic of a rider with flip flop racing boots.
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Well that's a pleasant sight first thing in the morning, let me just push my breakfast aside lol...

I remember seeing a picture once of someone who was wearing a peanut helmet and did a faceplant off his bike, his jaw was ripped clean off. So my answer has always been and always will be full face.

 

[killvino]

sikhs are organized and VERY political, shows how effective good lobbying is.

We need to somehow draw them into other fights that matter.
Is filtering somehow religious for them?

 

[timtune]

I only have one helmet, so modular it is.

I only have two helmets so they're both full face.

 

[Soulcatcher668]

Well that's a pleasant sight first thing in the morning, let me just push my breakfast aside lol...

I remember seeing a picture once of someone who was wearing a peanut helmet and did a faceplant off his bike, his jaw was ripped clean off. So my answer has always been and always will be full face.

This^

A buddy of mine had the rear tire of his Vmax blow out on the highway and went down hard. The chin bar on his helmet was destroyed, if he was not wearing a full face, he would have no face.

 

[ScorpionT16]

Turbans are great if you have nothing worth protecting. I always love this pic of a rider with flip flop racing boots.

Firstly, and I'm not sure a lot of people in the west get this, though someone's religion or beliefs to do so freely are worth protecting, you realize this the more you stand out in a society that is different from the one you came from. It's one thing to adapt to culture, another to be told to, to fit in. You need to understand what the turban signifies, and it's more than just fabric covering a head. When muslims were taking over the eastern empire, Sikhs stood up by standing out, using the turban as a way to show they weren't afraid of prosecution and forced beliefs. It wasn't about we have a better religion or belief vs them, it was about not letting someone else dictate your ideology. Sikhism, is an evolution of Buddhism, encompassing all beliefs. When Gautama, aka Buddha, tied his hair into a knot later in life, it was to signify enlightenment. He emphasized everyone is born enlightened, so Sikhs do this from birth.

Many forget, who weren't in this space, it wasn't long ago wearing a Turban meant one couldn't even get a Job, let alone ride a motorcycle.

Sort of similar to dreadlocks, which the Mau Mau's in Africa used as a symbol of strength when their livelihoods were being stolen by whites, or how Native's look at hair as strength. Many Sikhs view the turban as such, as a statement of their strength. Ps. I wear a Turban, and always wear a full face lid, mainly because I can put aside my ego and see the difference between that and pride.

fun fact. For many that don't know, all Sikhs have the same middle name, males are 'Singh' and females are 'Kaur'. For Lion, and Lioness, or King and Queen, so many see the turban as their Crown.

 

[Dimitri]

One of their biggest claims was that they wore turbans during World Wars and they were proficient in stopping bullets......yea ok.

In all honesty, the helmets of both world wars were incapable of stopping a rifle round. So their turbans were just as capable as the helmets they compare them too.

 

[Evoex]

In all honesty, the helmets of both world wars were incapable of stopping a rifle round. So their turbans were just as capable as the helmets they compare them too.

Some odd 20 years ago I was a wee lad doing my basic and it was our first day on the firing range. I asked my sergeant if the Kevlar helmets we used would stop bullets. He said pending caliber the odds were good but the impact could snap my neck.

Certainly didn’t make me feel any safer.

 

[Wingboy]

In all honesty, the helmets of both world wars were incapable of stopping a rifle round. So their turbans were just as capable as the helmets they compare them too.

I have my father in law's ww2 helmet in my basement. It has an entrance hole in the front of it that goes thru the small package of gauze. He spent a while in a Dutch hospital recovering from the graze. Then a long March back to France dodging pockets of Germans that wouldn't believe the war was over. They took refuge in a French farmhouse from the Germans only to have the house get shelled. Took two days to be dug out.
He spent months in a phsyc hospital upon return.

 

[ScorpionT16]

The Sikhs riders lobbied and got it changed in BC first which became the precedent in Canada. Anyone that's been or lived in BC knows its predominantly Sikhs living their now anyhow.

One of their biggest claims was that they wore turbans during World Wars and they were proficient in stopping bullets......yea ok. I wouldn't care so much until they scrape their faces off and then it weighs on our free health care.

At Least they were brave enough to fight, and fought alongside many allies. infact, read up on history and how paramount Sikhs were in winning many wars, and amongst the bravest. They were there to fight a war, the idea of the turban gave them strength. You don't wear one, nor grew up with such a notion, so wouldn't understand how powerful it can be.


As for that claim, it was not made by Sikhs, but by Lt. General Sir Reginald Savory in a letter.

""... I have known Sikhs to pick bullets out of their turbans during and after battle. In fact the turban absorbs the shock of a bullet possibly rather better than a tin helmet. If the turban is properly tied, it will also form an effective buffer too, for instance from a toss from a motor bicycle.

"During World War I, when the steel helmet was first introduced, we British Officers of Sikh Regiments tried to persuade our men to wear them, but they steadfastly refused, and have done so ever since."

sikhchic.com | The Art and Culture of the Diaspora | The Turban in the World Wars

Senior military officers on the Sikh Turban in the World Wars.

www.sikhchic.com

For those wondering why Sikhs fight for this privilege today, its because they were honored it before.

"In Great Britain we claim to support religious tolerance. Why therefore should we try to force someone to do something which is definitely against his religious convictions? "The Sikhs have fought for us in so many campaigns and laid down their lives for us - I consider that we owe them a great deal and have now a chance to repay our debts in a small way by allowing them to wear Turbans instead of crash helmets while driving motor cycles."

 

[ScorpionT16]

I wouldn't care so much until they scrape their faces off and then it weighs on our free health care.

So that's what gets you about it? - People break bones, and other things during an accident, what about car accidents where helmets have also shown to be safer, or beanie lids with just a fake DOT sticker. Or even wearing motorcycle boots, which save broken ankles etc... I can name many things people do, like unhealthy diets, smoking, or eating refined sugar and processed foods that weigh in on the healthcare system in a much larger way, look at the top 10 causes of deaths, accidents aren't even on the list. however, ultimately that's what taxes and a system are there for, and in this case, insurance, not for others to dictate what one can practice and not.

 

[SVeezy]

So that's what gets you about it? - People break bones, and other things during an accident, what about car accidents where helmets have also shown to be safer, or beanie lids with just a fake DOT sticker. Or even wearing motorcycle boots, which save broken ankles etc... I can name many things people do, like unhealthy diets, smoking, or eating refined sugar and processed foods that weigh in on the healthcare system in a much larger way, look at the top 10 causes of deaths, accidents aren't even on the list. however, ultimately that's what taxes and a system are there for, and in this case, insurance, not for others to dictate what one can practice and not.

I agree, the impact to the health care system is probably minimal certainly in comparison to other things. Especially considering the number of other incidents that might result in death thus essentially no impact on health care.

I do not believe in special privileges for groups religious or otherwise. If you are going to allow a group to be exempt from helmet laws then just get rid of the law and say everyone can ride without a helmet. Just my opinion, others may differ.


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[Evoex]

I do not believe in special privileges for groups religious or otherwise. If you are going to allow a group to be exempt from helmet laws then just get rid of the law and say everyone can ride without a helmet. Just my opinion, others may differ.


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This, 100%. One step backwards for equality.

 

[ScorpionT16]

I do not believe in special privileges for groups religious or otherwise. If you are going to allow a group to be exempt from helmet laws then just get rid of the law and say everyone can ride without a helmet. Just my opinion, others may differ.


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Agreed on that, it should be equal for everyone. Reminds me of a salesperson who told me they had someone inquire about buying a car, and he mentioned the interest rate at xx% to them, the buyer, who was Muslim, said Interest is not allowed in their religion, so it should be 0. The guy just said, okay, get all the money or there's the door lol. Why should that not apply to everyone then.

My mum, who is a florist, was working last year and got a call for some flowers to be delivered, the person said they are black and because of BLM, she should do it for free. My mum said "No, I charge what I do for everyone equally" the lady got mad and hung up.

 

[bigpoppa]

verdict on the rf 1400 is in, its very aerodynamic, so highway runs, or higher speed riding are improved, there is no head wobbling or straining doing shoulder checks etc, its quiet, although Im still gonna start rocking the ear plugs

 

[Roadghost]

It’s a sign of our govt pandering to votes. I remember reading something idiotic where turbans are as safe as helmets....

Nothing wrong with it. I don't believe there should be a helmet law. If you want to ride without one you should be able to.

 

[mimico_polak]

Nothing wrong with it. I don't believe there should be a helmet law. If you want to ride without one you should be able to.

Agreed. Same rules for all. No special interest group and I’m in 100% agreement.

 

[Dr.Manhattan]

Nothing wrong with it. I don't believe there should be a helmet law. If you want to ride without one you should be able to.

Then you're getting into the necessity of wearing seatbelts or not as well.

 

[Roadghost]

Then you're getting into the necessity of wearing seatbelts or not as well.

No, very different. If you're not wearing a seatbelt you risk flying around and hitting other people in an out of control vehicle. That violates the rights of others. Riding with no helmet in no way puts others at risk of harm.

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