Yeah, they possessed the offender and started controlling his hands and his right foot
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Yeah, they possessed the offender and started controlling his hands and his right foot
Did you read the G&M story? Do you think that this incident did not have any factors that brought it to this ending? When people complain for years and no action is taken, this is the potential outcome. As i said I'm not condoning anything. Berwick's live is ruined. His parents' live are ruined. Yes I think it could have ben prevented.
OpenGambit
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Yeah, these guys are noble heros defending crown lands from the invading asian hordes.
grow up.
grow up.
I never said anyone was a hero
What I said is, if a long standing issue was dealt with this incident would likely not have happened. The ounce of prevention thing.
I never said anyone was a hero
If only his dad wore a condom and his mom took her birth control - ounce of prevention.
OpenGambit
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Or maybe people fishing in Georgina county should get Outdoor Cards
Oh now its the victims fault. gotcha.
Or maybe people fishing in Georgina county should get Outdoor Cards
Not having an Outdoor Card is an offense punishable by death
Venom01
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OK it obviously not the point at all here. The issues had with the MNR are there own, and even if everyone that fished or hunted had a card how many of them would abide by the set rules of conservation? Poachers poach and people who care, well, they care. Excuse the pun but that's another fish to fry. If it was really anger due to the lack of these peoples respect for conservation they could have gone about it another way. I think this whole incident goes way beyond any of that so just drop it.
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I'm going to get an infraction or ban for this, but it's worth it.
Your comments are nothing short of moronic. First of all, they chased them down and ran them off the road. If their intention was to scare they accomplished that when they ran away. At that point, they were just having fun. It reminds me nothing more of the KKK chasing down black people who were invading their lands.
No matter what happens, each and every person is in control of their actions. Those actions have consequences and we know what the consequences can be. If you're ok with the consequences then man up and face them. Saying that what has happened in the background influenced their actions is complete bull. That is just an excuse being used to justify nothing more than a cowardly attack based on racism. That is what is it and nothing more or less.
What the offender did was while he was fully conscious and in control of his actions. He is a racist ******* who was just having fun. He doesn't give a **** about anyone or anything other than him. There is no remorse from him and if he could it again he would in a heart beat.
Grow up.
Point 1) The civil service consists largely of a bunch of lazy self serving work avoiders that could have POSSIBLY prevented this if other good for nothing civil servants didn't block them over "Profiling" concerns.
Point 2) Nothing in point 1 justifies what was done.
Point 2) Nothing in point 1 justifies what was done.
Did you just profile civil servants? When you said civil servants do you mean EMS, Health care, Fire fighter? Just askin
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Did you just profile civil servants? When you said civil servants do you mean EMS, Health care, Fire fighter? Just askin
Yes I did and you missed teachers and the police. Start with the RCMP and work your way down. Public servants take care of their own. Unlike the private sector they can keep milking the system because it won't go bankrupt until the country does (Greece).
If I go to a store and have to wait while an employee dawdles along I can go elsewhere. If I get jerked around at a GM dealership I can go to an indy. With the government one has to take whatever crap service one gets. Complain and it gets worse.
Job security should come from people wanting to deal with you not having to deal with you.
The civil service used to be underpaid but had security. Then came the unions and equality with the private sector but they never gave up the security. Empire building flourished. IMO the pencil pusher civil service is a magnet for slackers. Re police, fire and EMS, if they protect the bad apples in their midst they shouldn't be surprised when the whole barrel is condemned.
Maybe there are lily white corners of the world and I do know some very good civil servants working well below their capacity because of moronic management. Maybe your corner of the world is different but government policy is to perpetuate problems not cure them.
As one welfare cheat put it, "Their job is to give away money. If they don't give away money then they don't have a job, do they?"
Correction: If Middleton didn't repeated ram the vehicle Berwick was travelling in, with the intent of causing physical harm to its occupants, then Berwick would not have received the profound brain damage that he did. I don't recall hearing that the vehicle Middleton was in was property of MNR, nor do I recall hearing that a MNR employee was at the wheel. The two issues are separate. No doubt Middleton had access to a telephone to call MNR or OPP, but failed to do so. He got a kick out of playing the vigilante. All that he was missing were the torch, horse, and white hood.
LMAO at this one
rbjeepthing
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I can't comment on the lack of outdoors cards or the race of people but I can comment on the fact the amount of garbage that anglers leave behind on public docking area's on Lake Simcoe is absolutely ridiculous. I have actually called out these people on numerous occasions and due to having my security license recorded their plates to be able to obtain their addresses. I then collect their garbage and mail it back to them and the funny thing is a majority of the addresses fall within the GTA.
Now onto the biggest thing. Some of these people who come up and fish on the government docks soon realized there are no washrooms. Instead of leaving the area to go use a public washroom they will actually defecate right on the government dock. Once we caught on to this we posted signs stating "area under video surveillance'. Apparently the culprits doing the defecating noticed these signs and decided it would be better to hide in our back yards and do the defecating there. The township has now provided a outhouse at the base of the government dock which seems to have solved the issue of **** being all over the dock.
For the last issue i would like to make people aware of. All these anglers prevent other user groups from using the dock for what it was designed for ie boating, swimming, sun bathing etc. If you are want to go swimming or tie your boat up they refuse to move on the dock. I don't condone violence and do agree these guys should be locked up and dealt with for what they deserve but there this an on going issue especially around the lakes closer to the city. It's has also only become in issue withing the last 10 years or so. I moved from the city and have quite a respect for the outdoors and just find it sad that some people figure it's literally not their backyard so who cares.
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rmemedic
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Funny... All the places I ever fish that are accessible by land (such as public docks and wharfs) there is no human fecal matter, very little garbage is left behind (some people will always litter) and pretty much every person you see there would be doing it legally... And these places aren't close to the GTA where certain groups tend to be.
It's common for people in other parts of the world to defecate where they want (I know, I've seen it) but it sure isn't a practice taught by most "Canadian" parents to their kids... I think most of us that were raised here would find it disgusting and just plainly not an option.
It doesn't bother me that people come and enjoy what Canada has to offer, I can share... But RESPECT it. I have this feeling they come and do what they want and don't care that there are generations that have been working towards conservation.
When I'm out fishing/hunting/riding with friends, we pack out what we pack in, and we only take our limit of what is in season, and I have a feeling these people don't care to do that either.
Venom01
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I'm not going to say where but on the lake I fish I can almost guarantee that I'm the only one that fishes with a license. This is obviously due to the lack of enforcement of the rules. Its at the point where the locals laughed at me as I renewed my tags at the local bait shop. My point is though that disrespect and lack of conservation for the environment comes from all races, its just you better be the right one to get away with it when it comes to some locals of these areas.
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