Hearing loss

Fencing with Amplifon on a lower cost alternative with battery. Phonak with 675 battery which lasts 14-20 days at a cost of $4 each..... meanwhile
partial decision on Hearing Aids made.
I looked at Jaspa 3 early on and then went trolling in the sewage pit that the HA business is. :eek:
USE JASPA 3 AS YOUR PRIMARY HEARING AIDS!
Lots of our customers have made Jaspa 3 their primary hearing aids.
The development of the Jaspa 3 technology utilises averaged hearing loss data as a means of the development of 4 custom designed sound programs, to clarify dialogue in a variety of listening environments. The Jaspa 3 is equipped with 10 volume levels, and can be used at soft or loud listening volumes. It is suitable for those with mild, moderate and even severe levels of hearing loss.
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Jaspa 3 features and technology rival the technology found in hearing aids that cost thousands of dollars, but for a fraction of the price.
Two Jaspa 3 devices will give you superior hearing if you have aidable hearing loss in both ears.
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https://www.foundhearing.com.au
Have a set coming. No App to deal with, no streaming and will cost nothing out of pocket. Rather put the money to a new bike.BillCat-1.jpg
 
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Shifting sands...
Hearing Aids were tolerable to excellent yesterday tho some of the high frequency sharp sounds were annoying.....as if the microphones were reaching out for ambient sounds, increasing volume and then I get hit with a sharp transient ( think china on a stone surface, cutlery on a plate. ).
One of the programs is Autosense that controls the settings as the ambient noise changes and generally it works well but then under quiet circumstances seems to have trouble with sudden sounds.
It also brings sounds like crickets etc in closer and then that's when the sharp sounds intrude sometimes close to painful level.
Watching media the HAs certainly improves speech clarity in the media.
Streaming to them is hopeless from the TV - from the computer in a quiet background the streaming into the HAs have very good fidelity when I use a high end music source.

So plan still remains to try the $800 solution arriving next week under similar conditions since I have the privacy afforded by partners house sitting to compare outcomes.

Turns out the rechargeable batteries can be replaced for $250 by the manufacturer ...very similar to a Mac laptop. That changes things. 🤪 Puts that issue to bed.

I may also decide to drop to a lesser Phonak model but in the same product line.....not sure I can get the white box version of the lower end so that is a factor narrowing the financial decision to stay with the more sophisticated HAs....if I go that route.
Asking about repairability now. 🍿
 
Getting along with the Phonak except for the sharp sounds. Going in Wednesday for an appointment and try to address some of the sharp spikes and get them to reduce the omnidirectional aspect. Went to a live small orchestra concert today - certainly was more enjoyable with the HAs in tho the sharp external sounds were distracting.

Got the Jaspa 3 today.
First impression very good tho fiddly. Harder to put in tho that may change with use.
Very prone fo feedback if I put my hand near them they squeal ....certainly will be no napping with them.
Intelligibility is surprisingly good without intrusion of exterior noise.
They are realllllly small. The one ( of four programs ) addresses my specific hearing loss and appears to do it well. Muffled is gone. Have to see how they are doing that.

The feedback might make them a non-starter.

Well these cheapies are pretty good…some annoyances but direct comparison on the same material they were as good and maybe better than the phonak- have to understand how they are pulling it off.
 
Getting along with the Phonak except for the sharp sounds. Going in Wednesday for an appointment and try to address some of the sharp spikes and get them to reduce the omnidirectional aspect. Went to a live small orchestra concert today - certainly was more enjoyable with the HAs in tho the sharp external sounds were distracting.

Got the Jaspa 3 today.
First impression very good tho fiddly. Harder to put in tho that may change with use.
Very prone fo feedback if I put my hand near them they squeal ....certainly will be no napping with them.
Intelligibility is surprisingly good without intrusion of exterior noise.
They are realllllly small. The one ( of four programs ) addresses my specific hearing loss and appears to do it well. Muffled is gone. Have to see how they are doing that.

The feedback might make them a non-starter.
 
MacDoc said:
Getting along with the Phonak except for the sharp sounds. Going in Wednesday for an appointment and try to address some of the sharp spikes and get them to reduce the omnidirectional aspect. Went to a live small orchestra concert today - certainly was more enjoyable with the HAs in tho the sharp external sounds were distracting.

Got the Jaspa 3 today.
First impression very good tho fiddly. Harder to put in tho that may change with use.
Very prone fo feedback if I put my hand near them they squeal ....certainly will be no napping with them.
Intelligibility is surprisingly good without intrusion of exterior noise.
They are realllllly small. The one ( of four programs ) addresses my specific hearing loss and appears to do it well. Muffled is gone. Have to see how they are doing that.

The feedback might make them a non-starter.
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Most (quality) HAs can be tuned to reduce the feedback.
With the Signia there is next to none.
However, wind-noise is something else. None of the HAs that I have tried, could tune that out. Reduce it yes, but it is still there.
 
Chris-CJ said:
Most (quality) HAs can be tuned to reduce the feedback.
With the Signia there is next to none.
However, wind-noise is something else. None of the HAs that I have tried, could tune that out. Reduce it yes, but it is still there.
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Wind noise is really tough to solve with math. Easy to fix by blocking the wind but most ha wearers don't want giant fuzzy covers near their ears.
 
The Jaspas are programmed to suppress feedback and it seems to depend on the seal of the in-ear tube to reduce the feedback.. The Phonak uses a double seal insert ( like some of the IEMs ) and the Jaspa a single of different sizes.
The Jaspas came with the smallest insert and I switched one ear to the largest and it has less feedback than the smaller one so that seems an okay solution and it's only when I brush very close to the large insert HA there was any last night.
I don't think it's an ongoing issue.

High tech is near magic and in this case there is a hint of it.
The damn things work to address the hole in my hearing....maybe better than the expensive ones and without the need for a phone app or adjustment appointments,
Four programs of which one suits my hearing loss.
10 levels of volume control.
Batteries easy to change and not expensive tho there is a rechargeable version which I will not pursue.

So here is the source manufacturer

AUSTAR: Hearing Aid Brand, Manufacturer and Supplier

Founded in 2003, AUSTAR is the best manufacturer and brand of hearing aids with medical standards in China, with ISO13485, CE and FDA certificates, providing affordable hearing aids and hearing solutions for global distributors and the hearing impaired.
www.austar-hearing.net

Leaning towards the cheapies now. Don't know exactly what the signal processing is doing but it works
 

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Interesting development

On a side note, would you be willing and able to participate in a pilot project to test performance of over the counter aids like your jaspa vs prescription aids like lumity ? It would involve me doing some acoustic measurements in your ear canal to assess the sound output of both aids and then some speech testing with and without the aids to compare the performance of both devices. It would take about 1 hour approx. I would like to do this as an experiment to teach audiology students and practitioners . Let me know if you are keen and we could set up a time before your return your aids. You have another 2 weeks to return them anyways so we could delay the process until we do these tests.
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Audio guy has not replied so likely will just drop off the the expensive jobbies and get a refund ...not waste an hour.

I also spoke to Jaspa and I will be trading up to the rechargeable version..just have to find out if the rechargeables can have the batteries replaced after a few years.
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They have 20 hours use before charging and a few software enhancements over the existing Jaspa 3
 
Went for a ride with my alternate helmet today, a Nexx X Wed carbon. Compared to my Nexx Villitur it’s pretty loud. Most of the noise is related to the ADV peak because when I held it steady things were better. The Villitur is a great helmet for the price.

I was shopping to see if ear plug tech had got better over the past few years but still don’t see anything better than the flares I have. They have updated the Isolate earplugs though so I will get the new model. Flare Audio Isolate 2 Earplugs – The Gear
 
I you have in-helmet speaker cavities and are not using them ....try filling the cavities with a small thin plastic bag ( 5-6 earplugs ) of soft earplugs.
1714716299755.png I use these Howard Leight - I used to buy 200 at a time and I reuse them as well.
That cavity resonates like crazy if empty - the earplugs stuff in damp that very well and in my case provide a slightly tighter seal to the helmet as it bulges the liner just a bit.
 
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I you have in-helmet speaker cavities and are not using them ....try filling the cavities with a small thin plastic bag ( 5-6 earplugs ) of soft earplugs.
View attachment 67537 I use these Howard Leight - I used to buy 200 at a time and I reuse them as well.
That cavity resonates like crazy if empty - the earplugs stuff in damp that very well and in my case provide a slightly tighter seal to the helmet as it bulges the liner just a bit.
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Mr clean magic eraser can work well for that too. Cut to shape.
 
One HA ran out of battery today before the other - my fault - not managing batteries well so I ran with one...actually was okay..I can see why some people just buy one.
 
MacDoc said:
I you have in-helmet speaker cavities and are not using them ....try filling the cavities with a small thin plastic bag ( 5-6 earplugs ) of soft earplugs.
View attachment 67537 I use these Howard Leight - I used to buy 200 at a time and I reuse them as well.
That cavity resonates like crazy if empty - the earplugs stuff in damp that very well and in my case provide a slightly tighter seal to the helmet as it bulges the liner just a bit.
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They are being used unfortunately. I did find a really good deal on a Puig clip on wind deflector on Amazon so I’m going to add that to my screen and see how things go. Reviews say it should give a good improvement.
 
Box of Rayovac Extra Hearing Aid Batteries size 312 Pack of 60
Box of Rayovac Extra Hearing Aid Batteries size 312 Pack of 60
RA312MFB
$33.90 AUD​
Normally shipped free by AusPost but paid for express another $9 as I only have two batteries from the original purchase. so .75cents per battery and used properly 7-10 days. We'll see.
I decided against the rechargeable as there is no provision for factory replacement after they die.
When I'm on my own I really don't need the hearing aids in - most has been testing between cheap and expenses now settling into my decision
 
Prepping the $$$ hearing aids for return tomorrow and learning a bit more about the much less expensive Jaspa 3s I'm keeping. 60 batteries on order for $48 via express post and they will last 6-14 days each depending on use.
So even with an extended warranty and batteries for a loooong time I'll be under $1k/
I'm able to hear clearly from 3m away on the couch and thats with a low volume setting on both TV and the HAs.
Later on I will switch to the BlueTooth headphones that will go over the hearing aids find when they are kept turned down.
So hearing put to bed. 😴 worth the extra effort.
 
While only somewhat related to OP's post I figured better to post a reply than start a new thread.

I spend about 6-12 hours a week either cutting grass or blowing snow, hearing protection has become important to me as mine is slipping and I have tinnitus. But being on equipment means if I am not facing you I can't hear or see you if you calling me also I could be far away etc.
So I used to wear hearing muffs with ear buds so my wife could call or text me to get my attention. Well I started to get ear aches I am thinking mild infections from the build up or sweat, pressure etc.

I received these today and oh baby!
PROHEAR 037 Gel Ear Pads Bluetooth Hearing Protection Headphones 25dB NRR Safety Noise Reduction
Seem to be good quality, very comfortable to wear (with glasses) due to gel pads and with Bluetooth I can listen to music, audio books etc. and I can still be reached via phone, text.

Just thought I'd share in case someone is in need of the same solution.

Bought from Amazon: Amazon.ca
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I had an Uncle that suffered hearing loss from firing artillery during the war ( for the Germans). His condition was unique though. If you were in the next room talking about him he could hear you no problem, otherwise you would have to shout at the top of your lungs for him to hear you, I think it was just a German thing.
 
I had a friend that was having problems with his hearing years ago and went to a hearing specialist. The specialist asked what the problem was and my friend said he kept hearing odd noises in his right ear. The specialist asked what kind of noises. My friend said that’s the strange part, it sounds like Tom Jones singing in my ear.The specialist said it sounds like you have a classic case of Tom Jonesitous. My friend said he had never heard of that and asked if it was common. The doctor replied… “Well, it’s not unusual”
 
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