Harper turnning Canada into an Orwellian police state!

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Thats is true however Christianity has over 34,000 sects and branches (roughly) with a very wide range of ideologies.

Christian Zionism is a prominant American ideology. In fact there are flocks of American Christians who travel to Isral on an annual basis to volunteer in vinyards and ... The belief is that when Jesus comes back, he will ressurect in Jerusalem and only when the third temple is bulilt and only then Jesus will come back.

im not a theologist so you can find much more info on that onlne but thats the short of it. plus American Christian extremists have an inherint hate towards Arabs becaus ethey view them all as one which and the enemy of my enemy (Israel) is basically whats at play here.

Bottom line ins, dont try to understand religious people through logic. Its called "faith" for a reason lol It doens tmake logical sense but it is the drive for all the madness.

All i care about is my civil rights in a supposadly demorcatic country and the absolute right to criticize any government. remember, Israel is NOT judaism or a race/ethnicity. Israel is a state with a government that has criminal policies and thats what we should all be free to criticize like any other government from any other country.
 
Jesus cannot come back unless the Jews are in Israel. The end of the world (rapture) cannot happen unless he comes back. Some think they (for being so righteous) will rise up to heaven when he comes back... Everyone else will die terribly and burn for eternity.

So any politician (or anyone) that supports Israel for THIS reason, is actually directly supporting the end of the world and mass genocide.

As for our current government. I have no idea why they support Israel like they do, I hope it is not for the purposes of mass genocide but for another more benign reason...

The action stinks regardless.
 
Just my opinion, but if there is a god, I think he'd prefer a kind atheist to a hateful Christian.
 
Schneller said:
Just my opinion, but if there is a god, I think he'd prefer a kind atheist to a hateful Christian.
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Add Islam and all other religions to that list.

If theres a god up there when im dead and he is as just as religions claim, im sure that god would give atheist more credit for THINKING about life and actually QUESTIONING religion rathen than being a blind sheep and follionwg the herd.

but thats just m yopinion
 
ashkan said:
Completely agree on liberals. In fact many of these government over reach policies are a Liberal legacy. The anti-terros law that passed under consrvatives in 2013 was originally drafted by Liberals.

That said, NDP has been very vocally against C-51. Im not trying to sell one party over another but NDP has been staunchly against most of these measure. Although NDP used to be much more on the left under Layton than they are under Mulcair
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The NDP are typically great at being vocal.

The down side is they always promise the world and don't seem to have any details on how to pay for things other than tax the rich and big business.

And when the rich and big business leave with no one to pay......well let's just cross that bridge when we get to it.
 
So the son of God cant resurrect until us, mere mortals, dont put stone on stone and build him another temple? Not much of a supernatural being is he if hes so easily "defeated"

carry on...

ashkan said:
Thats is true however Christianity has over 34,000 sects and branches (roughly) with a very wide range of ideologies.

Christian Zionism is a prominant American ideology. In fact there are flocks of American Christians who travel to Isral on an annual basis to volunteer in vinyards and ... The belief is that when Jesus comes back, he will ressurect in Jerusalem and only when the third temple is bulilt and only then Jesus will come back.

im not a theologist so you can find much more info on that onlne but thats the short of it. plus American Christian extremists have an inherint hate towards Arabs becaus ethey view them all as one which and the enemy of my enemy (Israel) is basically whats at play here.

Bottom line ins, dont try to understand religious people through logic. Its called "faith" for a reason lol It doens tmake logical sense but it is the drive for all the madness.

All i care about is my civil rights in a supposadly demorcatic country and the absolute right to criticize any government. remember, Israel is NOT judaism or a race/ethnicity. Israel is a state with a government that has criminal policies and thats what we should all be free to criticize like any other government from any other country.
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Red_Liner740 said:
So the son of God cant resurrect until us, mere mortals, dont put stone on stone and build him another temple? Not much of a supernatural being is he if hes so easily "defeated"
carry on...
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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”


― Epicurus
 
So I am guessing that it is inevitable that we will follow suite and eventually end up like the police state below us?

Or can we be saved?


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Red_Liner740 said:
So the son of God cant resurrect until us, mere mortals, dont put stone on stone and build him another temple? Not much of a supernatural being is he if hes so easily "defeated"

carry on...
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This is the same God that could not help his Chosen people win a battle because their enemies had Iron Chariots!
Judges 1:19
 
How come so many of the threads here end up arguing and discussing religion...
 
In this thread, it's directly related to Harpers fundamental Christian background and his unwavering support for Israel. Harpers background may also explain his disdain for science with regards to climate change.
 
ashkan said:
Christian Zionism is the correct definition. "is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. The term began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding"

Here is the wiki link but there are tons more if you wanna find out what Harper is really about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
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It's not really Christian Zionism as much as it is a Christian, Muslim and Jewish cult of Armageddon that is rampant right now! All 3 prophesy the convergence of so called "Jews" (not necessarily true believers) at the Holy-land only to usher in a war that sees the Messiah come (in the case of Judaism) / return (in the case of Islam and Christianity). All 3 believe the Messiah will side in their favour and settle the scores with the non-believers whatever they term themselves. Christians nor Muslims necessarily believe the current occupiers (the Jews) are intended to rule legitimately, only that this is part of the prophesy to usher in the Messiah to establish the legitimate rulers.

In this sense there are also Muslim "Zionists" but more truthfully their Zionism is via a massive war led by the Messiah. All this is just ground work!
 
cbcanada said:
Exactly true ! I wonder the same


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
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What else do you want to discuss on a motorcycle forum?? Which oil to use, how to break-in a new bike or where to order the cheapest tires?? This is more fun ...
 
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