The only addition to this line to adults in some industries...'are you sober?'
Friends in the construction field have told me many times it's hard to keep guys as they come in bombed from the night before...every single day.
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Good place for a 14yr old to work?
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Friends in the construction field have told me many times it's hard to keep guys as they come in bombed from the night before...every single day.
A 14 year old can be performing as a musician, creating an online persona for the future (seriously takes years to build), and just overall getting a head start by overachieving against other 14 year olds.
Find the 14 year old Asian with glasses that looks like bully material for an example lol
EDIT: Also the context to my reply was page 1 and 2 of "go through the door to get a job", which, imo, is poor advice because it bypasses "how to play the system" skills that will be necessary later in life.
Are they not playing the system by doing so though? If 99% of the applicants don’t do this, and one does, do they not have a leg up and have already played the system to their advantage?
I just had a chat with a 55 year old about a career change. He can’t believe that his managers / directors are in their mid 30s with so much variety in their resumes. Majority of them have zero skills technically in the discipline. But they jump around and around until they get to the higher roles.
Hell I know a CEO that’s in his early 30s. WTF did I do wrong in my career.
A real CEO (eg large company with a bod) or a wanker "ceo" of a one person company that sells dog mugs on etsy?
Wanker CEO of a large company (Zukerberg).
The problem is this bypasses the system instead of playing it imo. Because everything is moving towards automation, it's best to know how to game that to your advantage. Children learn super fast too!
As Jordan Peterson said: "you either know how to use a computer or you're useless." This thread has the opposite advice though, we talk about soft skills and how important they are.
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I have the inverse issue you have: imposter syndrome for years. I still have a hard time believing half of my team is stoned, yet somehow produce better code than non-stoner boomers, and our daily conversations would get us fired (we have a white guy who pretends he's black when he games and constantly screams something that rhymes with rigger; best part is there's a black guy on the team who pretends he's Chinese and talks in a Chinese accent.)
Everyone above is making six figures or more lol. I don't understand how a bunch of ppl referring to themselves as "half autistic retards" are at this point in life; heavily goes against all the soft skill advice you see in mainstream media.
Real CEO. None of that essential oils type of CEO.
I think it’s the smart play. The system is there sure, but if you can figure out how to game it, or use the tools you have to your advantage have at it.
It only sucks if you can’t exploit it. If you can, you consider yourself a genius (not you specifically).
As for impostor syndrome, I have no clue how someone pays me for what I do, but apparently I’m good at it so I’ll keep it up.
Mad Mike
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Is your friend a banker? That's the secret to getting ahead in banking, change roles every year.
No. He’s in software something similar to SALESFORCE or something along those lines.
Another great place for a young teenager to get a job is at movie theaters. They are all opening up today and will be looking for help. We went today and spoke with a manager at our local cinema and they will be hiring in the next couple of weeks.
If it helps...
Salesforce dev work is not real dev work. They make a **** ton of money though but it's a circle jerk of "let's lile on more technical debt."
Mad Mike
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Why is Salesforce dev work not real? What is real dev work?
Grasshopper, you have a lot to learn about software development. Technical debt is not necessarily bad.
He’s not a dev. He worked at SF for a while, and then branched off to some supporting company where he leveraged it to get to CEO. I don’t know the details.
Clearly he’s doing better than me and I’m happy for him.
Proprietary technology.
I don't want to get into it though; I come from a heavily open source background.
Chances are, my equal grasshopper, we started at the time. Except I was 4 years old, and you were....I dunno, when'd you start? lol
What’s technical debt?
afici0nad0
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Best way to describe it is our government printing a few billion dollars, and forgetting they need to not hyper inflate the economy, and all of a sudden taxing online purchases from Steam, Sony, and Google because "oh **** we need money."
Proper solution should have been: implement the tax 10+ years ago and the above situation changes.
Most software developers are "demigods" in our own world and can see many steps ahead, similar to an tradesman knowing that doing xyz will lead to abc which leads to efg which leads to explosion. The common fight between technical folk and non-technical folk is "how much lying or kicking the can down the road can we do to get more money?"
Can't go too far either way because one leads to infinite development, and the other leads to implosion.
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Salesforce is an example of a company where the technical debt is shifted too far:
Is Salesforce really a bad platform to work with?
Answer (1 of 10): I worked in a SalesForce project once and that was long time ago but I still remember those days. Development UI was crappy, services were failing and the total experience as an engineer was awful. I just ended up leaving my company after a couple of months. SalesForce is a huge...
Salesforce is primarily a last generation type company where they focus far more on marketing (aka. covering ******** up in perfume and telling people it smells amazing) and a pretty good example of "**** the developers, just make the sales." You'd definitely make **** tons of money not being a dev there though so I'd recommend it for non devs.
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Mad Mike
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1979. 8080 based serial VDT keyboard was my first real project. Then a bunch of other imbedded stuff for video, fax, and telecom.
Later was business apps (mo money).
I didn't go into game development for the same reason lol
The first one involves death marches and constantly overtime :')
lol I admittedly wasn't born yet. It would've been around 1991 for me, with an Apple 2 and creating "Hello World" in C/C++.
I haven't done imbedded stuff aside from one Bluetooth driver. My problem sets are all over the place tho: browser, game engine, finance, 3d modelling tool, medicine, and hacking (game consoles, school network back high school, etc.) come to mind.
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