Fundamentals of math are back! And more.

I sometimes wonder if vehicle sales staff know the total cost of vehicles they are pushing. They are laser focused on the monthly payments and how you can afford them, how you can add this for only a few bucks a month etc. Its much easier to get buyers on the hook for $500 a month for 8 years than 50K for a motorbike.

They know.

They are taught in Sales School to redirect the customer's focus to monthly payments because if they actually knew the total cost including financing, most customers would sprint out the front door.

"You like that car? What's your monthly budget? I can make it happen for you!"

Customer walks out with a 96-month car loan at 10% financing. For the next two years of payments, he won't even make a scratch in the principal.

They know.
 
It lets one dream but as some have said it's a tax on stupidity, the average win is half of what you put in. When my mother made the comment her wages would have been 1/25th of what they are today. The house we were living in would have been 1/100th of what it is today.
I often buy one ticket when it gets to 50M+. Your odds of hitting the numbers are the same every draw, you might as well go for a bigger payoff (with the slight hiccup of more tickets are probably sold for a big draw so you chance of splitting increases). The first ticket infinitely increases your odds from zero to a tiny bit above zero. Each additional ticket from that point forward scales linearly (and as you said, the house always wins so it is just donating more money to douggie).
 
I often buy one ticket when it gets to 50M+. Your odds of hitting the numbers are the same every draw, you might as well go for a bigger payoff (with the slight hiccup of more tickets are probably sold for a big draw so you chance of splitting increases). The first ticket infinitely increases your odds from zero to a tiny bit above zero. Each additional ticket from that point forward scales linearly (and as you said, the house always wins so it is just donating more money to douggie).

I buy my lottery tickets with my magic money credit card.
 
even something as simple as building a deck, each board is 6", deck is 10ft wide, I need 20 pcs. I watch people struggle with this.

Car saleman are 100% trained to ask what you are comfortable with monthly and focus on getting you excited, and sold. Does he care if its within your budget? nope he cares if he can get you credit approved. He'll give you all the rope you need to hang your self, its his job.
 
even something as simple as building a deck, each board is 6", deck is 10ft wide, I need 20 pcs. I watch people struggle with this.

Car saleman are 100% trained to ask what you are comfortable with monthly and focus on getting you excited, and sold. Does he care if its within your budget? nope he cares if he can get you credit approved. He'll give you all the rope you need to hang your self, its his job.
Tell the car dealer you are buying the car cash outright and they really have no idea how to handle that :LOL: Then they actually try to convince you it's a bad idea to own things, then I leave and go buy it elsewhere.
 
Car saleman are 100% trained to ask what you are comfortable with monthly and focus on getting you excited, and sold. Does he care if its within your budget? nope he cares if he can get you credit approved. He'll give you all the rope you need to hang your self, its his job.

When I was 19, fresh in university, I walked into a Mazda dealership because of the Mazdaspeed3 craze. Honestly, I could not afford a car (I'd have been using scholarships, grants, and etc. to pay for the car.)

The sales dude let me test drive, and got me up to the monthly payments portion. I told him my situation and he tried to convince me I can deal with that later.

I didn't buy the car, but I can totally see some poor fool being taken advantage of then shackled for life.
 
When I was 19, fresh in university, I walked into a Mazda dealership because of the Mazdaspeed3 craze. Honestly, I could not afford a car (I'd have been using scholarships, grants, and etc. to pay for the car.)

The sales dude let me test drive, and got me up to the monthly payments portion. I told him my situation and he tried to convince me I can deal with that later.

I didn't buy the car, but I can totally see some poor fool being taken advantage of then shackled for life.
Haha, I went to look at an SRT4. It was fun to drive and made nice noises. Then we ran the numbers. Wait a minute. You want my car plus 20K and I end up with a Neon? Screw that, thanks for the test drive.
 
When I was 19, fresh in university, I walked into a Mazda dealership because of the Mazdaspeed3 craze. Honestly, I could not afford a car (I'd have been using scholarships, grants, and etc. to pay for the car.)

The sales dude let me test drive, and got me up to the monthly payments portion. I told him my situation and he tried to convince me I can deal with that later.

I didn't buy the car, but I can totally see some poor fool being taken advantage of then shackled for life.

It seems its way easier to get cars financed than bikes (for obvious reasons I suppose)

also does anyone know if they make more on used sales/financing vs new?
 
It seems its way easier to get cars financed than bikes (for obvious reasons I suppose)

also does anyone know if they make more on used sales/financing vs new?
Speaking of math fundamentals, during the shutdown, a friend of a friend was one of two salespeople that his dealership kept employed. He was the highest performing prior to the shutdown. Obviously total sales volume was down but the two guys working tripled their normal volume. It will be interesting to see if the dealership brings everyone back or continues to run lean. If you can convince buyers to make appointments, you can be much more efficient (no army sitting around waiting for people to show, cars gassed and in front of the dealership prior to you showing up, etc).
 
ANSWER KEY.

I teach financial fundamentals to hundreds of 20-30 year olds each year, I can tell you very few understand the fundamentals of savings and credit. If you're reading this, ask yourself a few questions:

Credit Cards:
What are the intended purposes of a credit card?
  • Save money by leveraging Cashback, Travel points, travel and car rental insurances, buyer protections
  • Grace period on purchases: use the bank's money free for 21-51 days.
  • Building credit history and score
  • Simplifying purchases for online shopping, hotel stays, car rentals
  • Peace of mind knowing you have access to credit in an emergency
Explain how interest is computed on a credit card?
Cards carry 2 or more balances, usually at different rates (purchases, cash like transactions, and special financing transactions). Interest is calculated on the daily closing balances then posted at the end of each statement cycle. When card balances are paid in full, interest on purchases (only purchases) is waived.

What is late, what is delinquent?
Most card payments are due 21 days after the statement date. Late is typically after 30 days, delinquent is typically after 60 days.

Can increasing your credit limit increase your credit score?
Yes if you keep the balance below 30% of your credit limit, otherwise no. For example, if you carry a $1,500 balance on a card limit of $2,000, increasing your credit limit to $5K will normally increase your credit score as long as you keep the card balance at or below $1500.

What level of credit card utilization causes your credit score to drop?
Above 30% - if you do not pay your card down to 30% of the credit limit after each statement there is a chance it will negatively impact your credit.

How many days can you use the bank's money for free (before getting charged interest)?
21-51 days on purchases depending on when you made the purchase. For example, if your statement is generated on June 25 and you purchased something on June 25 you will have a grace period of 21 days. If you made that purchase May 26(the day after your last statement) you could use the bank's money 51 days!

Savings:
What are the 3 main reasons for savings?
  • Rainy day fund to cover unforeseen expenses or income gaps
  • To make a large purchase - big screen tv, motorcycle, home, wedding, vacation
  • Retirement
If you put $100 biweekly into a RSP savings plan and reinvest the dividends & tax refund, how much will you have in 5 years?
Between $17,000-$20,000 would be conservative.

Explain a simple saving strategy.
Having an automatic contribution or transfer from your chequing account to a savings account. Some employers offer RSP programs through payroll deductions, any financial institution can set up an automatic transfer for you.

General:
If you carry 10K balance on a credit card, what is your annual carrying cost? $2,100/year. If you carried 0 and put the equivalent interest charges into savings, how much would you have after 5 years. Approx $16,000

What percentage of your gross income will most lenders considerable reasonable for housing costs, taxes and debt payments?
36% to 42% -- above 42% gets tough.

.... Now, if you have reasonable financial acumen you can answer those questions without the use of a calculator or the internet in about 5 minutes.
 
even something as simple as building a deck, each board is 6", deck is 10ft wide, I need 20 pcs. I watch people struggle with this.
A friend went to home depot to pick up some drywall. He had a pile of 1/2" board 2' deep. The teller counted the doubles and charged him for 24 sheets. My buddy tried to explain the screw up and the teller couldn't understand. My buddy gave up arguing and took his half price board. It's sad, but stores really need to make sure their staff has some fundamental logic and math base or it will cost them a lot in the long run. Hell, I was at CT getting stackable patio chairs one time and we had to go get them from a trailer in the parking lot. I bought four chairs. The employee pushed four boxes of eight out of the trailer and told me to have a good day. Ugh. Brain son. Use your brain.
 
Can someone familiar with coding explain this to me and direct me to a course where I can learn this...I'll have to teach my grade 2s this starting in September...



Mathematics, Grade 2

C3. Coding

Specific expectations

By the end of Grade 2, students will:

C3.1

solve problems and create computational representations of mathematical situations by writing and executing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events

C3.2

read and alter existing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events, and describe how changes to the code affect the outcomes
 
even something as simple as building a deck, each board is 6", deck is 10ft wide, I need 20 pcs. I watch people struggle with this.

20 pcs until you realize you made the rookie mistake of thinking a nominal 5/4" x 6" has the same true dimension. Then your making that 6:00PM Saturday walk of shame Home Depot trip for the other 2 deck boards you need to wrap up the job ;)

I swear NA's lumber industry finds the most confusing way of selling their product just to mess with the DIYers. WTF is a 5/4ths anyway?? just call it a 1-1/4!!!
 
Can someone familiar with coding explain this to me and direct me to a course where I can learn this...I'll have to teach my grade 2s this starting in September...



Mathematics, Grade 2

C3. Coding

Specific expectations

By the end of Grade 2, students will:

C3.1

solve problems and create computational representations of mathematical situations by writing and executing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events

C3.2

read and alter existing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events, and describe how changes to the code affect the outcomes


Theres TONS of great options in 2020, especially for kids, this one looks to be entertaining as well as educational, simple enough but the syntax resembles the real thing:


see also:
 
Can someone familiar with coding explain this to me and direct me to a course where I can learn this...I'll have to teach my grade 2s this starting in September...



Mathematics, Grade 2

C3. Coding

Specific expectations

By the end of Grade 2, students will:

C3.1

solve problems and create computational representations of mathematical situations by writing and executing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events

C3.2

read and alter existing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events, and describe how changes to the code affect the outcomes
God I hate how they write curriculums. I read the kindergarten one and wanted to punch myself out. Hopefully they provide something useful for teachers.

As a starting point, search for pseudocode. That is a great base. Basically a way to outline your logic and thought pattern without actually applying the syntax and complications of a real programming language. After the kids have their pseudocode, you can put it in whatever programming language they want kids in Grade 2 to use.

I have no idea what they are talking about for concurrent events. I can't imagine any coding in Grade 2 that is non-sequential.
 
20 pcs until you realize you made the rookie mistake of thinking a nominal 5/4" x 6" has the same true dimension. Then your making that 6:00PM Saturday walk of shame Home Depot trip for the other 2 deck boards you need to wrap up the job ;)

I swear NA's lumber industry finds the most confusing way of selling their product just to mess with the DIYers. WTF is a 5/4ths anyway?? just call it a 1-1/4!!!
You set deck boards tight? I leave a screw gap. Depending on the dimensions of the deck, sometimes it is a loose screw, sometimes a tight screw so there are no rip cuts.
 
Theres TONS of great options in 2020, especially for kids, this one looks to be entertaining as well as educational, simple enough but the syntax resembles the real thing:


see also:
Wow, that is a lot more visual than any code I have ever written. I normally have a question, need an answer and don't need to see anything in between (other than for debug).
 
Wow, that is a lot more visual than any code I have ever written. I normally have a question, need an answer and don't need to see anything in between (other than for debug).

yep, kids like bright colors, and games, and visual stuff, if they learn programming and problem solving to boot, thats a big bonus
(khan started out with a great learning program, it was good enough that bill gates used it for his own kids, and eventually ended up bankrolling his school online)
 
Can someone familiar with coding explain this to me and direct me to a course where I can learn this...I'll have to teach my grade 2s this starting in September...



Mathematics, Grade 2

C3. Coding

Specific expectations

By the end of Grade 2, students will:

C3.1

solve problems and create computational representations of mathematical situations by writing and executing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events

C3.2

read and alter existing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events, and describe how changes to the code affect the outcomes
Start here: ScratchJr - Home -- this is likely the level of complexity for kids that age.

For you, try Google's digital garage: Understand the basics of code
 
Can someone familiar with coding explain this to me and direct me to a course where I can learn this...I'll have to teach my grade 2s this starting in September...



Mathematics, Grade 2

C3. Coding

Specific expectations

By the end of Grade 2, students will:

C3.1

solve problems and create computational representations of mathematical situations by writing and executing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events

C3.2

read and alter existing code, including code that involves sequential and concurrent events, and describe how changes to the code affect the outcomes
Sounds like a simple C program routine, teach them to program in C
... correction teach yourself simple C programming, then show them what you can do.
 
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