From an Sv650s to Yamaha R1.. too big a jump?

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vinehanger

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Very serious about purchasing a Yamaha r1 to replace my SV650s. If anyone has ridden those bikes can shed some light on the transition, I'd appreciate it. I do not have experience with a 600 super-sports, except a few short rides on a ZX6R. The SV650 I am very familiar with, having owned both a 2002 and 2003 versions of them for the past 2 years, after starting off with a 250r. I'm just wondering if the jump will be too much for me. I'm not interested in the 600 supersports right now, really want to move up to a liter bike and stay there for the foreseeable future.

Mistake or go for it?
 
It depends on the individual... In some aspects, "some" experience is a dangerous thing; Total newbs make stupid but mostly harmless mistakes, while riders with some confidence get into a lot more trouble...

If you're "mature" about riding, I'd say go for it... Remember - even really experienced riders get a wake-up call every now and then... SV is a lot more forgiving than R1...
 
I haven't had too much experience with any of those 3 bikes I've owned 2 dirt bikes and am currently on an R6. I also have ridden on a varying basis (enough to get used to and comfortable on) a monster S2R 1000.

1st of all I want to show you some respect for starting on a 250. As someone who works at a bike shop I see guys who have bought 600 super bikes and even one who bought a 1000 super bike as their first bike ever.

(Just going from what I know I have an education in car mechanics and I'll go off of what I have ridden)

The SV is a twin so its probably has close to MAYBE more torque than the R1 definitely the R6 since they both have 4 cylinders. Yamaha's are known to have no low end. on my 06 R6 I don't get any power until I hit about 6000 rpm and nothing really significant until about 8k rpm. So if you're looking for something to pull your head back when you give it a little then the R1 may not be the best option.

This being said on either an R6 or an R1 you will have much more power than what is necessary on the street, I can pull at least 100kph in first gear on my R6.

Too big of a jump, I don't think so if you can respect it. Looking at your history of bikes I would conclude you probably can.

If you do or don't either way PLEASE wear all your gear. It makes my stomach churn when I see guys in nothing but a back protector or a tee shirt.

Anyway sorry for ranting good luck whatever you decide to do.
 
I say go for it.
 
R1 has alot more torque than a sv650, not just more hp.
You stated you are not interested in 600s.....what is the reason?
 
go for it. I made the mistake of jumping to a 600cc from the sv. It's great on the track but on the street, it's zzzz.
 
Go for it just make sure you have a nice ohlins steering damper on it, you'll thank me in the future
 
murf said:
R1 has alot more torque than a sv650, not just more hp.
You stated you are not interested in 600s.....what is the reason?
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Well I don't like the idea of getting a 600 and then investing a lot of money on mods/maintance on it only to sell it off in a couple of years. I know a Supersport 600 is a logical step up but I consider myself pretty mature and self controlling. The R1 I can see myself taking care of years and years, and replacing it with another R1 if I need to.
 
vinehanger said:
Well I don't like the idea of getting a 600 and then investing a lot of money on mods/maintance on it only to sell it off in a couple of years. I know a Supersport 600 is a logical step up but I consider myself pretty mature and self controlling. The R1 I can see myself taking care of years and years, and replacing it with another R1 if I need to.
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You will never outgrow a 600, but in case you think you will get a 750. 30hp+ over a 600

R1 is retarded, you truly dont understand until you ride one. You will not be able to ride it the same way as a sv or even a 600. On a 600 you downshift and crank the throttle to pass a car or whatever, you do the same on a r1 the front end points at the sky
 
vrus said:
go for it. I made the mistake of jumping to a 600cc from the sv. It's great on the track but on the street, it's zzzz.
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Can you elaborate on that? A friend of mine went from a SV to zx6r and he really missed the SV. But theres something about the supersports that calls to me...
 
vinehanger said:
Well I don't like the idea of getting a 600 and then investing a lot of money on mods/maintance on it only to sell it off in a couple of years. I know a Supersport 600 is a logical step up but I consider myself pretty mature and self controlling. The R1 I can see myself taking care of years and years, and replacing it with another R1 if I need to.
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My personal opinion:
As far as 600 vs 1000 it depends on the type of riding you're going to do. If you are doing a lot of highway or two-upping then the R1 might be a better choice. An R6 has more then enough power for the street and can get you into trouble quickly. The difference in feel between the two (other than weight) is that the 1000 will feel less buzzy at highway speeds and feels like it has 600 power everywhere in the powerband. The 600 you will need to make sure that you high enough in the RPM range to make power when you need it.
 
Aspiring_Racer said:
The SV is a twin so its probably has close to MAYBE more torque than the R1 definitely the R6 since they both have 4 cylinders.
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LOL what???? Pass whatever you're smoking please...I wanna live in this fantasy land where a 650cc SV makes more torque than a 1000cc R1!
 
Dohhh said:
You will never outgrow a 600, but in case you think you will get a 750. 30hp+ over a 600

R1 is retarded, you truly dont understand until you ride one. You will not be able to ride it the same way as a sv or even a 600. On a 600 you downshift and crank the throttle to pass a car or whatever, you do the same on a r1 the front end points at the sky
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Speak for yourself. I've ridden all my liter bikes just like I rode 600s... nothin to it! You're aware that the liter bikes have throttles controlled by your right hand, just like 600s right?

People act as if it takes magical powers to 'control' a liter bike on the street. It doesn't, it just takes a certain level of restraint until one is comfortable. I can wipe out on a 600 just as hard as I would on a 1k.

To OP: you obviously want the R1, don't let anyone talk you out of it. Buy what makes you happy, only you know if you're 'ready'.
 
mmmnaked said:
LOL what???? Pass whatever you're smoking please...I wanna live in this fantasy land where a 650cc SV makes more torque than a 1000cc R1!
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It doesn't. According to some quick Googling:

2006 R6 = 44.5 lbs ft peak torque at 11000 rpm
2006 sv650 = 47.2 lbs ft at 7000 rpm
2006 R1 = 78.6 lbs ft at 10500 rpm
 
R1 (2012):

Per Yamaha:
84.6 ft-lbs torque.
454 lbs. wet weight

Per Wikipedia:
72.6 ft-lbs torque (2009-2010)
146.2 rear wheel horsepower
477 lbs. wet weight
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SV650 ABS (2012):

Per Suzuki
448 lbs. wet weight

Per Wikipedia:
47.2 ft-lbs torque (2003 -2009)
73.4 rear wheel horsepower (2003 -2009)
436 lbs. wet weight (2003)


Ya, they are close in torque and hp. :lmao:After all both throttles only turn half a turn (roughly) at the grip. :confused5:
1,000's approx. 160 kph in 1st gear.
650 approx. 90 kph?

1,000's approx. 210 kph in 2nd gear with 4 more to go! :happy7:
650 top speed 210??

1,000: coldish 5 degrees outside, pavement cold: pull out to pass a car at 95 kph in 6th gear and slow down because the rear tire started spinning with 1/2 to 3/4 throttle! Not a 600!
 
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SV650s to R1, no it is not a big jump. In fact i just upgraded from ninja 250 to R6 and I feel like this is what i want and surely is enough for my riding style. R1 uses too much gas. Go for whatever you like, get a test ride if you really need to.
 
mmmnaked said:
Speak for yourself. I've ridden all my liter bikes just like I rode 600s... nothin to it! You're aware that the liter bikes have throttles controlled by your right hand, just like 600s right?

People act as if it takes magical powers to 'control' a liter bike on the street. It doesn't, it just takes a certain level of restraint until one is comfortable. I can wipe out on a 600 just as hard as I would on a 1k.

To OP: you obviously want the R1, don't let anyone talk you out of it. Buy what makes you happy, only you know if you're 'ready'.
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I had NO IDEA! All these years i thought the liter bikes had the throttle connected directly to ones ball sack, and depending on how big your balls were the bike would accelerate. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

You clearly didnt take the time to read what i wrote.
Show me one person that can push a 600 to the limit on the street and NEEDS a 1000 lol

You buy a 1000 cause u want the extra power etc but after coming off a sv650 you wont outgrow a 600 in a year or 2. anyone that claims otherwise is delusional.

and the difference between twisting the throttle wot on a 600 and 1000 is world apart.
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