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All of the surrounding nations (all predominantly Muslim) tried several times to annihilate Israel.

Every time despite inferior numbers Israel kicked their ***** and made major gains in territory.

Of course they gave most of it back except for the defensively strategic areas.

They area of Judea and Samaria commonly called the West Bank was Israel's to begin with until Rome banned the Jews from entering their homeland for 19 centuries.

So if they were overwhelmingly attacked and made gains of what was originally their's why is it not their land?

Especially considering it was a wasteland that they worked hard to make fertile.

Care to point out which rivers were diverted to make them fertile? I can help you here....they were not Israel's downstream.

Also as an aside...using a book of fairy stories as a legally binding land document is a little absurd isn't it?

Also...who was in that land before Judaism even existed? Surely it's their land isn't it?

Giving a religion a country is a totally nutbar idea and the decades of war and resistance is what you get for it. Let's give Vatican City to all the catholics...any catholic can go and live there. Any Mormon has the right to live in Utah at the expense of anyone else that may have lived there before. Screw it...I'm writing the "Book of Me" and in it it says that I am the one true holy one who should be given Bermuda...and everyone already there has to **** off. Zionism is a bad idea...but the problem is, it's happened, you can't "unhappen" it but what certainly shouldn't be done is prop up a vile undemocratic, apartheid government at the expense of everyone else who has to live in refugee camps without the same status or rights. Jews and Arabs lived together peacefully for ages before when each was treated equally. It can happen again but settlements need to stop, land stolen needs to be returned, people need to be treated absolutely equally and refugees in other countries need to be allowed to return to their homes.
 
So there is a 2 day truce, Israel's term is for Hamas to surrender their weapons, lol. Yeah, drop your weapons so I can F you in the arse

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Jews and Arabs lived together peacefully for ages before when each was treated equally. It can happen again but settlements need to stop, land stolen needs to be returned, people need to be treated absolutely equally and refugees in other countries need to be allowed to return to their homes.

Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean See.


Hamas intentions of destruction of the State of Israel can be found in its own publications and videos.

That is what must change first, but I don't see it happening.

You just gloss over that part.
 
Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean See.


Hamas intentions of destruction of the State of Israel can be found in its own publications and videos.

That is what must change first, but I don't see it happening.

You just gloss over that part.

Hamas are not the Palestinians. That's like saying all the Irish were the IRA. You can't bleat on about Hamas and use that as an excuse for the state sponsored terrorism of an entire populous. You do realise that is indefensible and reprehensible right?
 
Starting to sound like an echo chamber here!

Hamas is only a few years old. Israeli massacre of Palestinians started over 6 decades ago.

Hamas and its tunnels are nothing but the new justification for ethnically cleansing Palestinians. Again, Hamas didn't exist for the first 50 years of this genocide.
And even if Hamas is a terrorist state and all that FOX news rhetoric, here is the simple fact.

Israel has been ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING Palestinian land since 1967(According to the UN).

So try hard to understand this very simple common sense reasoning. If someone comes and steals your house and kicks you and your family out, blocks food and essential goods from getting to you, then every couple of years comes in and destroys the tents you live in for 66 years. After all that, if you try to fight back with puny $500 rockets that hit nowhere vs a multi billion dollar military, you are still called the terrorist? This logic is so backwards but kudos to western propaganda machine that still manages to turn the story around and call the people who are massacred, the terrorists! Israel invaded Palestine not the other way around so the criminal is very obvious.

Again, Hamas is only Israel's new excuse which is 50 years younger than this one sided genocide so stop beating that drum. Not all of us are ignorant to the history of the conflict and some of us have a memory span than stretches a little further than 10 years.

Just glad the world is waking up to this more and more with South Americans being the most recent addition to those awakened.
 
And just to entertain those excuse. Lets say Hamas is in fact a terrorist group. Where did they come from?
Well lets listen to Dr. Ron Paul and find out!
Im sure most of you know who he is.

[video=youtube;Yb3vF6Vcjr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb3vF6Vcjr0[/video]
 
Great letter in the Globe today that really sums things up "why would the occupied Palestinians want to guarantee the security of their occupiers?". Think about that for a minute, that's like asking the french resistance to think about the security of the nazis during WWII, or more recently asking the Kuwaitis to be really nice to the Iraqis when they invaded. The spin in this conflict is unreal, I'm really glad the world is more connected and more able to see things from an unbiased angle these days. I'm hoping the boycotts gather pace because money talks.
 
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, just as the Nazis were the elected government in Germany in the early 40's.

Israel has to deal with Hamas.

But gloss over that too.
 
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, just as the Nazis were the elected government in Germany in the early 40's.

Israel has to deal with Hamas.

But gloss over that too.

Isn't the Israeli government that has been oppressing and ethnic cleansing the Palestinians long before the birth of Hamas also an elected government? Gloss over that...

Hamas is bad, but the other side has proven itself far worse via their actions for decades. Does not change Hamas being bad, just that someone else is worse.
 
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, just as the Nazis were the elected government in Germany in the early 40's.

Israel has to deal with Hamas.

But gloss over that too.

Can you try to write something that makes sense, please?
 
Hamas are not the Palestinians. That's like saying all the Irish were the IRA. You can't bleat on about Hamas and use that as an excuse for the state sponsored terrorism of an entire populous. You do realise that is indefensible and reprehensible right?

Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, just as the Nazis were the elected government in Germany in the early 40's.

Israel has to deal with Hamas.

But gloss over that too.
 
Let's count how many civilians....and specifically children.... were killed on each side and see who the aggressor is.....

I always thought killing children and bombing neutral locations were the act of terrorists.....
 
Lets not forget the main point here. Hamas be it good or bad, its a small timer. Israel is a state of apartheid much life South Africa was and here is a quick video on why for thos unfamiliar with this fact.
[video=youtube;SoQAAFiQrZo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoQAAFiQrZo[/video]
 
Isn't the Israeli government that has been oppressing and ethnic cleansing the Palestinians long before the birth of Hamas also an elected government? Gloss over that...

Hamas is bad, but the other side has proven itself far worse via their actions for decades. Does not change Hamas being bad, just that someone else is worse.

The gloss on that is that "ethnic cleansing" is a disgusting term that absolutely does not apply here and is pure hyperbole,
 
And here us former US president Jimmy Carter speaking about the STATE OF APARTHEID called Israel. Just in case you need to hear it from an American president. Guess everyone is all anti-Semitic?
[video=youtube;uvtC_qzHVM4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtC_qzHVM4[/video]
 
The gloss on that is that "ethnic cleansing" is a disgusting term that absolutely does not apply here and is pure hyperbole,

You are right...no one has corralled an entire populous into a small area and targeted their infrastructure, schools, hospitals, power plants, controlled water access and movements while bombing the crap out of civilians. Oh...wait a minute.

Could this be why several organizations are looking at war crimes indictments for Israel?

Face it, you have no defence for this, the hypocrisy exists because you could easily substitute "Palestinian" for "Jew" and "Gaza" for "Warsaw ghetto" or any other enclave used in WWII and the outcry is totally reversed.
 
Let's count how many civilians....and specifically children.... were killed on each side and see who the aggressor is.....

I always thought killing children and bombing neutral locations were the act of terrorists.....

If you understand what's happening beyond what you see on the Daily Show than you can see that Hamas is setting up it's own people for bombings-

http://globalnews.ca/news/1493155/wa...civilian-area/


http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...ckets.cnn.html

 
You are right...no one has corralled an entire populous into a small area and targeted their infrastructure, schools, hospitals, power plants, controlled water access and movements while bombing the crap out of civilians. Oh...wait a minute.

Could this be why several organizations are looking at war crimes indictments for Israel?

Face it, you have no defence for this, the hypocrisy exists because you could easily substitute "Palestinian" for "Jew" and "Gaza" for "Warsaw ghetto" or any other enclave used in WWII and the outcry is totally reversed.

So why do the Saudi's and Egyptians call out Hamas?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/world/...rticle_sidebar
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/world/...rticle_sidebar
 
And here us former US president Jimmy Carter speaking about the STATE OF APARTHEID called Israel. Just in case you need to hear it from an American president. Guess everyone is all anti-Semitic?
[video=youtube;uvtC_qzHVM4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtC_qzHVM4[/video]

Bottom of the barrel=Jimmy Carter
 
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