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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

@mimico_polak you still have the option of leaving the shed as is. Build a temp support wall to hold it up and cut it back from the house. Insulate and do the siding on the house and then reattach it.

So far no one has complained, no enforcement, so that may just (odds are) continue forever. By doing the siding and insulation along inside it properly IF at some future point you have to or want to remove it, you can with minimal ugliness. By doing the work with the shed propped in place it draws less attention than taking it down and putting it back up. Also the cheapest option right now...
Agree. Do it now and not have the problem of matching materials down the road when a Nazi neighbour pulls the plug on you.
 
Chicken wire the area from the inside against the rotted plywood between the studs and maybe PT boards from the inside. Sign Kevin somewhere on the job for consistency.
I actually Kevin'ed it already. There was light shining through some spots so I put in some plywood and covered it up tight.

Was actually planning on making a form, and using the 2x4 studs as formwork for concrete on the bottom 4" of the shed. Until I decided to replace it properly...until now.
 
Agree. Do it now and not have the problem of matching materials down the road when a Nazi neighbour pulls the plug on you.
Easy enough. Pull the fence, replace plywood and install siding...and replace the fence back in.

Fence is being replaced within a year or two anyway as it's on it's last legs, but those 4x4 will be replaced by 6x6 posts.
 
I'm looking for a roofer but few have WSIB clearances and most want cash.

I'm torn between saving the HST that Ottawa will only waste and being the dutiful taxpayer. HST has been a windfall for residential contractors. They only give away the government's share.

Roofers that tick all the boxes are twice or more than the price of the tax dodgers.
 
I'm looking for a roofer but few have WSIB clearances and most want cash.

I'm torn between saving the HST that Ottawa will only waste and being the dutiful taxpayer. HST has been a windfall for residential contractors. They only give away the government's share.

Roofers that tick all the boxes are twice or more than the price of the tax dodgers.
FWIW, the one I used had wsib, would collect tax and was one of the cheaper ones. Any company that sent a sales rep was in cuckoo town (probably because the rep was hoping for 10K for showing up). You want the small company, ideally with the owner on the roof.
 
20yrs ago I agree to a cash job. With litigation the way it is you could loose the house if buddy falls . I’m not risking a million dollar property to save 5k . Just can’t .


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The interesting grey area is you have a quote including HST and company has WSIB. If they fall before you pay, you should be clean as there is a paper trail for a legitimate job. Whether the company is declaring all work to wsib is beyond the scope of what a client can determine.
 
20yrs ago I agree to a cash job. With litigation the way it is you could loose the house if buddy falls . I’m not risking a million dollar property to save 5k . Just can’t .


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I can't figure out how it's the home owners' responsibility if a contractor falls off your roof, and they are doing the job. It's on them to make sure they have their insurance and WSIB in line, not the homeowner's.

Ridiculous.

You bid a job, you take the risk of that job. That's why you're getting paid.
 
I can't figure out how it's the home owners' responsibility if a contractor falls off your roof, and they are doing the job. It's on them to make sure they have their insurance and WSIB in line, not the homeowner's.

Ridiculous.

You bid a job, you take the risk of that job. That's why you're getting paid.
Sort of. If someone gets hurt, if WSIB is not in place, they are suing everyone they can. If WSIB is in place, they can't (which was the purpose of creating wsib). Would the homeowner have to pay after a trial? Maybe not. Would the homeowners insurance cut a cheque for five figures to avoid paying lawyers six figures in the fight? In a heartbeat. Now you have an insurance claim and higher rates.
 
Sort of. If someone gets hurt, if WSIB is not in place, they are suing everyone they can. If WSIB is in place, they can't (which was the purpose of creating wsib). Would the homeowner have to pay after a trial? Maybe not. Would the homeowners insurance cut a cheque for five figures to avoid paying lawyers six figures in the fight? In a heartbeat. Now you have an insurance claim and higher rates.
Could they put a lean on the house the way they can if they don't get paid?

Meantime, we had the laundry area re-plumbed. There was some Kevin looking **** under the cupboards.
 
Could they put a lean on the house the way they can if they don't get paid?
Who would lien the house? I doubt the injured worker could. You can't just slap liens on people that you hope owe you money. If you lost in court and were found liable, that's what insurance is for, hopefully you had enough. Again, even if you didn't have enough insurance I don't know if they can lien your house. Collecting civil debts is a nightmare. Court can say money is owed but there is no good process to get the bill paid if the debtor doesn't want to.
 
Who would lien the house? I doubt the injured worker could. You can't just slap liens on people that you hope owe you money. If you lost in court and were found liable, that's what insurance is for, hopefully you had enough. Again, even if you didn't have enough insurance I don't know if they can lien your house. Collecting civil debts is a nightmare. Court can say money is owed but there is no good process to get the bill paid if the debtor doesn't want to.
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That should apply if you don't pay the bill for the service. If someone got hurt and wanted money, that appears to be entirely outside of the scope. Now, there could be a messy middle where someone gets hurt so progress stops and you need to hire someone else to finish and you decide not to pay original company as they didn't complete the work. That lien should be roughly the contract value though, not six or seven figures to cover the injury.
 
Like crank call I don't want to risk my house to save a thousand dollars.

Some thoughts:

Most contractors,other than the Forest Hill ones automatically want to do the job cash.

Think about it as a paranoid homeowner.

The one I was prepared to work with had a WSIB clearance certificate and quoted $7200 for the job. I asked for more vents and that took it up to $7600. Last year I had one quote that must have included gold plated nails, $23,000.

As we discussed the $7600 job further he pushed for cash with half down. What if he didn't show up and I'm out $3800?

What if he does show up and a worker falls off the roof or the next day realizes his back is out. The job wasn't done by the contractor. It was done by a bunch of guys working for me for cash. WSIB is out of the picture.

Also ask if the workers have "Working at heights" certification.

WSIB seems to be a typical rat's nest when it comes to getting the right story.

I called them yesterday and didn't like what I heard.

WSIB doesn't necessarily protect the home owner. It protects the employer from being sued by an injured worker. The home owner is not automatically cleared of financial responsibility for injuries. This is what I got from WSIB yesterday on the phone. Maybe I got the file clerk or mail boy but I have yet to find anything that comes right out and says I'm safe as long as I have a valid certificate in my hands.

So the injured worker deals with WSIB but as a side issue sues the homeowner for $100,000. He offers to settle for $25,000 out of court. Does the home owner risk paying a lawyer $25,000 to get him off with the possibility of losing and adding the $100,000 to his costs.

It used to be that management could get an exemption but that meant the certificate didn't apply to them. They were not covered and could sue. To be technically legal does the home owner have to card everyone coming onto the property?

When I ran my company I could have taken the executive exemption but didn't. My accountant pointed out that meant I couldn't sue. Yup, I don't fudge the intent of the certificate.

Why does every governmental organization in Canada have policies written with disappearing ink?

A solo person working on residential projects doesn't need to carry WSIB. That changes if they hire employees.

A lot of the above is paranoid thinking but only the paranoid survive.
 
Renovating and rebuilding have that awkward situation in that you have to make it look worse before it starts looking better. Hopefully that turning point is near. It can be tiring.
Yes. But I do expect to start installing the actual siding / brick this upcoming weekend.
 
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We had a deck extension added 1.5yrs ago (original section is covered) and this new area is starting to squeak. Upon inspection it looks like it’s mostly air-nailed with a few random screws added in (unless it’s all screws and suck very deep). If it’s indeed nailed would a single screw in the middle work or would it end up curling on the sides? Is there a better solution (not sure there’s enough room for two screws in each area).
 

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