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Elephant in the Covid room
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The numbers on Covid aren't good and not dropping in any dramatic fashion. We've bashed Ford and Trudeau with little in the way of results. As bad as things are there are still the denials, anti maskers and huggers.
Ford Ok'd the police to challenge unnecessary travel and the chiefs said they weren't going to bother. If they were doing it over people's rights I wish they'd include HTA 172.
There are the obvious suffering people, front line types and small business owners, tourism etc but retirees, CERB recipients with no eviction rules and lack of morals could be enjoying sleeping in. With all the real estate sales and renovations going on a lot of people aren't hurting.
Would making more people hurt improve compliance?
It seems that the ones denying don't change until they get covid themselves but then it's too late.
Ford Ok'd the police to challenge unnecessary travel and the chiefs said they weren't going to bother. If they were doing it over people's rights I wish they'd include HTA 172.
There are the obvious suffering people, front line types and small business owners, tourism etc but retirees, CERB recipients with no eviction rules and lack of morals could be enjoying sleeping in. With all the real estate sales and renovations going on a lot of people aren't hurting.
Would making more people hurt improve compliance?
It seems that the ones denying don't change until they get covid themselves but then it's too late.
Whether you like it or not the reason people are sick of this and not following rules is :
1. The chances of getting it are super low
2. The chance of dying from it for most people is super low
3. Most have very little to no symptoms and recover quickly.
4. Majority of deaths are old people in LTC who were one fall away from dying anyway.
Add that all up and unless you are irrationally filled with fear you go on with your life.
we are talking 1,27 million infections out of 39 million people , that is less than 4 percent of the population has got it the last 14 months ....which means 96 plus percent haven’t . If you got 96 percent in school you would be pretty happy .
Deaths are 24,000 of which half were in Quebec and the majority in old age homes .
Covid doesn’t affect the majority of people but stupid lockdowns and shutdowns affect everyone’s health .
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Mad Mike
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I wonder how complicit Kingston Public health and Queens is in spreading COVID? I have a few nieces and nephews that attend Queens as freshmen. Not wanting to miss the res revenue, Queens allowed kids who wanted the res experience (18 and away from mom and dad, sex, drugs, booze etc) to do their studies online while staying in res.61 cases now...
A total of 61 COVID-19 cases linked to Kingston construction site outbreak - Kingston | Globalnews.ca
A COVID-19 outbreak at a Kingston construction site has now led to a total of 61 cases.globalnews.ca
The kids tell me plenty of kids contracted COVID in res then after diagnoses headed home to recover. I have 2 nieces that did this. It appears they were free to gather both inside the university and outside.
Queens is connected to approx 25% of all Covid cases Kingston, Frontenac, Lennox, and Addington regions. I have ot imagine the numbers are much larger than that - my niece said she knows of 11 classmates that took Covid to homes outside KFLA 2 weeks ago (including her).
Are all University’s doing this?
Probably. As with everything else, follow the money.
I've got 3 daughters all in uni and all taking part from home, One we are still paying res for, although she is not living there
Mad Mike
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My daughter just wrapped up last month, she did her degree from home, U of T did not require her to attend a single campus course in person this year.
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For anyone living in Halton...
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Priller
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My son just finished first year at Guelph from home. If you wanted to stay in res, you had to provide a letter showing why it was absolutely necessary, and it was strongly discouraged. The only classes not online were limited science courses (veterinary, for example) where distance learning simply isn't practical.
I have a cousin who teaches a practical course at a college, and they split his class in half to limit the density. It resulted in him doing twice as much work, plus lots of cleaning to keep the tools sanitary. It's been a very long year for him...
You're not wrong. If you have a bunch of kids intent on having the first year university experience in the middle of a pandemic you can be reasonably sure that those that made that conscious decision to defy common sense in the first place aren’t going to make the decision to suddenly obey all rules once they get here.
That sounds like a prudent approach by guelph. I suspect some other schools may have been more concerned about what were fundamentally empty apartment buildings. As a landlord, losing all of your tenants for a few years is pretty horrendous.
My daughter in western asked to keep her room in the rental property, We still pay for it as she is hoping one day to be able to return.
I don't know how many others are still paying for residents and not being occupied by the students
All well and fine but still leaves you with a decision.
What do you do about the hospitals? We’re in a ‘lockdown’ but still currently transporting people to other parts of the province for COVID related and non COVID related situations.
What would be your plan to stop the infected from going to the hospital.
what should have been done all along . Expand capacity , get people to lose weight and get healthy, stop smoking. Etc . and accept **** happens and people die . Don’t compromise all of societys mental and physical health for a few. Once again we are killing and damaging way more people around the world with lockdowns than the virus is . starvation ,suicide, , depression , abuse , overdoses are killing many many more but that doesn’t seem to matter.
right now there are way more people in hospital and ICU for reasons other than covid.
‘Are we about saving lives or just saving ones that get Covid?
ER doctors (In Alberta no less) seem to disagree with you.
‘Are we in trouble? Absolutely’: Alberta battles worst Covid rate in North America
Critics say relaxed approach to restrictions has caused surge in prairie province averse to perceived government overreach
www.theguardian.com
ER doctors (In Alberta no less) seem to disagree with you.
‘Are we in trouble? Absolutely’: Alberta battles worst Covid rate in North America
Critics say relaxed approach to restrictions has caused surge in prairie province averse to perceived government overreach
Where did they disagree with what I said? There is no mention in the article opposing anything I said .....What do you expect Doctors to say? They would keep the world shut until every life is saved. That’s not reasonable. Here is the doctors quote right from the link you posted :
‘The science was clear from the beginning. If we didn’t aim for ‘Covid zero’ and if we started to relax our restrictions in the face of variants, this is where we would end up,” said Vipond. “It was always a fool’s errand to try and vaccinate our way out of a third wave. It’s just not mathematically possible”
He mentions aiming for “ Covid zero” that is impossible ....exactly why doctors opinions can’t be the be all end all as they only have one focus and that focus isn’t attainable or reasonable.
When you are giving double lung transplants to people who will have an awful life afterwards and trying to keep 100 year olds alive you obviously aren’t going to listen to anyone who thinks there should be a more middle ground solution.
Once again no mention of , be healthier , lose weight , stop smoking , limit alcohol intake.....just , shutdown , mask up , get the vaccine , hide at home, the government will save you.....Totally stupid.
He also mentions that no system can outrun Covid and that vaccinations are a fools errand to get us out of this ...he’s an idiot .....Tell that to California ,Florida etc.
Well I think it’s quite clear where he disagreed. I even put it in the quote.
where he said we can’t out run Covid by vaccinating and that’s a fools errand? I edited my original post to add that in ,he’s a fool. California and Florida have worked their system and vaccinated their way out of it. This doctor is a ******* dummy looking for Covid zero.
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Well, if it’s any consolation things will get better.
We just shut down the last mass vaccination site today. Vaccines will continue in public health facilities, pharmacies and pop-ups if there is a new hot spot.
The whole state is Yellow now and almost everything is open with some restrictions. They think most areas will be able to go to green in 6 weeks.
It seems like Canada is 6-8 months behind but I would expect to see things improve by the end of the summer. in the meantime Stay Safe!!!
We just shut down the last mass vaccination site today. Vaccines will continue in public health facilities, pharmacies and pop-ups if there is a new hot spot.
The whole state is Yellow now and almost everything is open with some restrictions. They think most areas will be able to go to green in 6 weeks.
It seems like Canada is 6-8 months behind but I would expect to see things improve by the end of the summer. in the meantime Stay Safe!!!
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