Do they matter less because of that?
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Elephant in the Covid room
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Do they matter less because of that?
A high number of our population (I've seen it range from 30-45%) have potential health issues that would lead to co-morbidities. If you don't, chances are a loved one does.
You are forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that healthy fit people can carry the virus and spread it to those that are not as healthy or fit without getting sick themselves. By your reasoning it's just too bad for those people. Do you include disabled people in that category? Yes or no.We are focused in the wrong place. For 14 months no one mentioned health or weight loss, only masks , lockdown and vaccines. The virus isn’t the problem, people being unhealthy slobs is the problem . The world shouldn’t suffer because you spent your life destroying your health and being a pig.
CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese
An overwhelming majority of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the CDC said.www.cnbc.com
Edit: if it's yes, you and i have a big problem.
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DownUnder
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Personally I belive a half assed lockdown is just as useless as no lockdown. The essential worker list is currently longer then the non essential worker list, you can't travel between province's but people from China, South Asia and the Middle East can fly in anytime they like, can't fly to the states but sure you can drive across if you feel like it...
If your going to lock us down, lock us the f down and make it work so we can get back to somewhat normal asap (rip the bandaid off as fast as possible) A 3 week proper lockdown and then proper incomming quarantine/vaccination would keep us somewhat safe till we get enough vaccines.
My quarantine would involve:
-Only grocery stores and gas stations and business directly supplying them open.
-No truck crosses the border without proof of the driver being vaccinated.
-Only canadian citizens allowed to fly into the country and mandatory 2 week quarantine. Zero flights out.
-If you live beside the border and work across it... to bad, work from home like the rest of the country.
-severe fines/punishment for breaking lockdown protocol.
Then after the lockdown, double the contact tracing workforce, and set up quarantine wards in hospitals for any person that tests positive (no more bs self isolate) . Also continue the 2 week quarantine of every person that comes off a plane and keep the border closed to any non commercial traffic. Done.
If your going to lock us down, lock us the f down and make it work so we can get back to somewhat normal asap (rip the bandaid off as fast as possible) A 3 week proper lockdown and then proper incomming quarantine/vaccination would keep us somewhat safe till we get enough vaccines.
My quarantine would involve:
-Only grocery stores and gas stations and business directly supplying them open.
-No truck crosses the border without proof of the driver being vaccinated.
-Only canadian citizens allowed to fly into the country and mandatory 2 week quarantine. Zero flights out.
-If you live beside the border and work across it... to bad, work from home like the rest of the country.
-severe fines/punishment for breaking lockdown protocol.
Then after the lockdown, double the contact tracing workforce, and set up quarantine wards in hospitals for any person that tests positive (no more bs self isolate) . Also continue the 2 week quarantine of every person that comes off a plane and keep the border closed to any non commercial traffic. Done.
Well this stinks. Stolen from a private facebook group.
" I just got turned away from the Orillia city dump as they are only allowing people in with ‘essential garbage’ only.
Example: flooded basement materials, hazardous disposal. All household garbage, compost, recycling and cardboard will not be accepted for a min of 2 weeks at the waste diversion site. You can put it out on your regular garbage day at your house, the gentleman told me. ( within your cities size and bag limits ). If you have large garbage , you have to keep it at home until they lift the order. This took effect today."
" I just got turned away from the Orillia city dump as they are only allowing people in with ‘essential garbage’ only.
Example: flooded basement materials, hazardous disposal. All household garbage, compost, recycling and cardboard will not be accepted for a min of 2 weeks at the waste diversion site. You can put it out on your regular garbage day at your house, the gentleman told me. ( within your cities size and bag limits ). If you have large garbage , you have to keep it at home until they lift the order. This took effect today."
A lot of medical staff live in detroit and work in Ontario. Hotels should have lots of capacity though. I have no problem with gov't picking up the three week hotel bill for those workers.
The category of what? The disabled didn’t destroy their own health they were born that way .
Kids don’t distance. It’s not in their makeup. Nor should it have to be, but here we are...so yes, mask the kids up. Most of them are better at it than adults anyways.
Nice tap dance.
so everyone who is fat is fat from PTSD? really? What are you talking about
I answered you multiple times I’m not sure why you can’t read I even answered what I would do differently. Go back and review or get over the fact you think you haven’t been answered
No you aren’t clear I don’t know what you meant. Ask more clearly if you want a different answer . I assumed you meant I thought disabled did it to themselves.
Isn't the adult equivalent of a well used playground just a crowded patio?
I know it sucks but I want this lockdown to be the last and to finish on the new date it was extended to.
Like Downunder said...just do it right one time instead of ******* about and pandering to every group that whines.
Ahhh so science doesn’t matter but pressure does. Would be nice if passive Canadians would push back more and they would stop this nonsense.
The thing that they're missing, is the shutting down of manufacturing and commercial facilities that involve people working indoors in close quarters.
The Amazon facility in Brampton was shut down and workers ordered to quarantine some time ago due to being responsible for 600 cases among employees (and who knows how many contacts - for all we know, that plant could be responsible for the big problem that Brampton has right now).
This is not easy to address, and it has impacts on companies that rely on cross-border trade. In my line of work, that's automotive assembly plants and all of their parts suppliers. Shutting down even just one critical parts supplier in Ontario would shut down assembly plants in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, etc.
Do we really need to order and receive stuff from Amazon for the next month? I think we can do without. Can we survive without auto manufacturing for the next month? I think we can. Michigan might not admit it, but they need that shutdown period just as much as we do.
Not all manufacturing/commercial facilities have people working in close quarters. Some of them are doing the best they can in terms of screening everyone who enters the plant and doing their own contact-tracing. Not all of them are.
What can public health do? Grant them one case (it happens), but if there is ever a second case that contact-traces back to that first case, they're done? they can keep going until they have a problem?
N.B. For anyone reading this, if you work in a commercial/industrial building ... have them open the shipping bay doors and all the windows, and leave them open. Wear a sweater if you need to stay warm. The closer you can make it to outdoor conditions, the better off you are.
The Amazon facility in Brampton was shut down and workers ordered to quarantine some time ago due to being responsible for 600 cases among employees (and who knows how many contacts - for all we know, that plant could be responsible for the big problem that Brampton has right now).
This is not easy to address, and it has impacts on companies that rely on cross-border trade. In my line of work, that's automotive assembly plants and all of their parts suppliers. Shutting down even just one critical parts supplier in Ontario would shut down assembly plants in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, etc.
Do we really need to order and receive stuff from Amazon for the next month? I think we can do without. Can we survive without auto manufacturing for the next month? I think we can. Michigan might not admit it, but they need that shutdown period just as much as we do.
Not all manufacturing/commercial facilities have people working in close quarters. Some of them are doing the best they can in terms of screening everyone who enters the plant and doing their own contact-tracing. Not all of them are.
What can public health do? Grant them one case (it happens), but if there is ever a second case that contact-traces back to that first case, they're done? they can keep going until they have a problem?
N.B. For anyone reading this, if you work in a commercial/industrial building ... have them open the shipping bay doors and all the windows, and leave them open. Wear a sweater if you need to stay warm. The closer you can make it to outdoor conditions, the better off you are.
The supply chain is way too long and deep to shut down those places. Even forestry is somehow connected to aspirin manufacturing . That’s how broad spread the ties in the chain are
And the fact that the virus has already run rampant through a lot of the idiots already? They have already had almost 3 million cases. Ontario has half the population and one seventh the covid cases even with way fewer vaccines. The reason Texas is doing better now is the the fire is almost burnt out. But I guess they are doing better than us....:watermark(cdn.texastribune.org/media/watermarks/2021.png,-0,30,0)/static.texastribune.org/media/files/8e168f83b9bb8c7719490be2e93efaa3/Fri%20ATX%20SoCO%20SF%20TT%2007)
Texas coronavirus cases haven't surged since Gov. Greg Abbott lifted the mask order. Experts warn it's too soon to celebrate.
Daily new cases and the positivity rate have leveled off over the past month, while deaths and hospitalization have gone down substantially.www.texastribune.org
Do you literally go on facebook to pull this stuff before you post it here. It is like you are regurgitating talking points from the government for why they cannot shut down companies to protect us. The Aspirin thing kills me.
if It’s the truth why does it bother you
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