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Walked into a store once with the wife and one guy was bitching about masks. Said “i can’t breathe.” Store owner asked if he has a medical disability he needs to know about. Guy said “no, I just can’t breathe with this crap on.”

You should have seen the look the wife gave him, if looks could kill...

As previously noted she’s an RRT whose worked 9 years + of 12 hr shifts with a mask.
 
‘Medical masks’ is all I got in the communication.
Interesting. Our work did the same as of Apr 1. They claimed 'studies show they are more effective'. I just assumed they had so many masks they wanted to write them off by making it mandatory work wear. After some complaining about fit etc they compromised and said we can still wear our cloth masks but the 'medical mask' must be the one that touches your face, so cloth over top.
 
Same for us. Cloth can be worn OVER the medical (diff email says ‘surgical’) mask.

@Evoex apparently we get a box of 50.
 
Slip of the tongue. Just 4 masks
I wasn't sure if they were doing 2 layer + 1 layer. I highly suspect the double seal has a much bigger effect than an extra layer of fabric.

When I had masks made for work (when visiting sites where I don't think N95 is the best choice) I had some two layer and some three layer made depending on how clients were feeling.
 
Walked into a store once with the wife and one guy was bitching about masks. Said “i can’t breathe.” Store owner asked if he has a medical disability he needs to know about. Guy said “no, I just can’t breathe with this crap on.”

You should have seen the look the wife gave him, if looks could kill...

As previously noted she’s an RRT whose worked 9 years + of 12 hr shifts with a mask.
It's probably similar to people who can't wear a full face helmet.

Costco got in some decent Tilley 3 layer masks.
 
Personally, if we're outdoors and you're 10m away, I don't care if you have a mask or not.

If we're indoors and close, I want you out of my space, mask or not.
 
If you are good there is a lot of money to be made. Generally these are design houses and they have some great clients that keep the cash rolling. I am in print, so I am not dependent on my moderate graphic design skills and go long periods without (thankfully) having to do any real design work. There are a lot of really bad graphic designers out there though, people who think they have cracked version of photoshop makes them a designer.
Whadda mean, whats the problem when Designers sending you files in RGB colours, and images with web page resolutions... ?.Ugh sorry to hear you are working in print, I was in the industry for a long time but luckily got out! But I hear COVID has been kinda ok for print with all the signage etc needed, and all rush as well.

A lot of people confuse Graphic Design with Printing, I use to tell people I worked in Printing and they would return with "oh you are a Designer", no I am not ?. Print is more technical, it basically boils down to manufacturing. Some of the tools are similar along with some of the skills, but that's it for crossover. And yes I have met ton's of useless people on both sides, print & designers, which make you wonder how they are even employed. I guess the same could be said for other areas of employment, if you are good you will find work.

These industries have been globally connected for year and years, I use to send files overseas for print production, but all the graphics and art production was done here. Also there is a lot of on demand stuff in print, like everything else in this world needed now, where clients don't have time to wait for stuff to print/ship from overseas, because corp just ok'd a budget and they need to spend it and move onto the next project.

Anyhow it is generally a decent way to make a living, I just got fed up and needed a change, for various reasons.
 
Same as anyone with a camera is a photographer, a guy painting his basement is now a painter, and the guy mowing his lawn is a landscape expert....oh wait....with that criteria I’m all 3!

The hell with the office. I’m going solo!

When I mow the lawn I identify as a Landscaping Engineer. That should make me eligible for some grant money somewhere, no?

I don’t know....but I guess all I need is to say ‘medical exemption’ and should be fine....

I kid. I like wearing my mask. Work just initiated that we can’t wear cloth but those medical ones. That’s gonna suck.

I have a big cloth mask that fits my face and was designed specifically so that I can tuck it in under the nosepieces on my glasses to stop my glasses from fogging. 3 layers, all that good stuff. Some places I go into refuse to let me wear it, with at least 1 insisting I wear their tiny blue one instead. And I mean...tiny. There ARE different sizes apparently and they musta ordered the cheap ones. So I go outside, put it on, and walk back inside with the mask pulling up over my chin and barely hanging off my nose. Needless to say my current Duck Dynasty beard isn't helping that whole situation. But it makes them feel better even though in reality it's really not doing a whole lot at that point. But rules, not sensibility.

Interesting. Our work did the same as of Apr 1. They claimed 'studies show they are more effective'. I just assumed they had so many masks they wanted to write them off by making it mandatory work wear. After some complaining about fit etc they compromised and said we can still wear our cloth masks but the 'medical mask' must be the one that touches your face, so cloth over top.

A certain large facility in Oshawa that will remain unnamed does the opposite - you can wear your own cloth mask but need to have their issued blue mask over top of it. Same results as above but at least it works I guess. I had dialogue with them about the reasoning for using my own mask (mainly not having my glasses fog up so badly I trip and go boom, not to mention can see where I'm driving as they insist it remains on ALL the time you're on the property, including when I'm driving) but it fell on deaf ears. The policy was changed to the double mask thing which is a reasonable compromise.
 
Graphic design? wtf, how did that get special mention? That is a huge loser. Easily sent offshore and very little reason for people to pay premium local rates. A friend was a partner in a graphic design firm and made slightly more than minimum wage.
I'm a graphic designer. Have been for almost 30 years.
Problem with offshore is the time difference. Graphic design has evolved to a "DO IT NOW OR I DON'T WANT IT" industry.
Try the job before saying it should be sent offshore.
Me, I'm 50. Been interviewed by late 20's to early 30's staff members many times. Nobody wants to hire an old fogey despite experience and craft. That's why I'm now at Canada Post... as a casual worker. Hoping for a call on a weekly or daily basis. Still do as much freelance design work as I can drum up.

What industry are you in? Maybe you should non-challantly suggest it gets moved offshore too.
 
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I don’t know....but I guess all I need is to say ‘medical exemption’ and should be fine....

I kid. I like wearing my mask. Work just initiated that we can’t wear cloth but those medical ones. That’s gonna suck.
My work has had the same policy for a little over a month now. They claim the surgical masks are better then cloth at preventing the spread of the new variants.
 
There are a lot of really bad graphic designers out there though, people who think they have cracked version of photoshop makes them a designer.
Those aren't graphic designers. People with computers think they know what to do as soon as they have Microsoft paint.
There's a whole lot more to it. Just because you have a computer, like to look at pretty things and have a camera on your cell phone doesn't mean jack squat.
 
I'm a graphic designer. Have been for almost 30 years.
Problem with offshore is the time difference. Graphic design has evolved to a "DO IT NOW OR I DON'T WANT IT" industry.
Try the job before saying it should be sent offshore.
Me, I'm 50. Been interviewed by late 20's to early 30's staff members many times. Nobody wants to hire an old fogey despite experience and craft.

What industry are you in? Maybe you should non-challantly suggest it gets moved offshore too.
That’s interesting about the ageism in your industry. In my industry people are screaming and begging for the old guys to come out of retirement because there’s just not enough people with experience.

I know guys that were billing $100/hr plus expenses to literally sit in an office all day and when something **** the bed...they had to get to the machine as whenever it stopped the costs were astronomical in comparison. And these guys could go in, listen for a few minutes and tell you ‘you’re an idiot and will break the machine’.

I was going that route and every new job offer was either Europe, US, or West Coast. I switched gears to a more office environment and same thing, heavy civil needs people with boots on the ground experience and it’s hard for the young ones to break in.

When they do get in and try to throw their weight around....doesn’t always end well in their favour.
 
I'm a graphic designer. Have been for almost 30 years.
Problem with offshore is the time difference. Graphic design has evolved to a "DO IT NOW OR I DON'T WANT IT" industry.
Try the job before saying it should be sent offshore.
Me, I'm 50. Been interviewed by late 20's to early 30's staff members many times. Nobody wants to hire an old fogey despite experience and craft. That's why I'm now at Canada Post... as a casual worker. Hoping for a call on a weekly or daily basis. Still do as much freelance design work as I can drum up.

What industry are you in? Maybe you should non-challantly suggest it gets moved offshore too.
I don't think graphic design should move offshore. I use someone that is really good and takes my crappy ideas and gives me back something much better. I don't mind paying him for his experience and eye. I am just saying it was a strange thing for Douggie to specifically call out as it is something that can move offshore and educating more people here will not change that trend (it will either stay or go without the tax credit is my point). Most of the other items flagged cannot leave and the jobs are guaranteed to remain here (equipment operators, psw etc).
 
Walked into a store once with the wife and one guy was bitching about masks. Said “i can’t breathe.” Store owner asked if he has a medical disability he needs to know about. Guy said “no, I just can’t breathe with this crap on.”

You should have seen the look the wife gave him, if looks could kill...

As previously noted she’s an RRT whose worked 9 years + of 12 hr shifts with a mask.

My comment would be that an 80 year old Muslim woman wears a face covering whenever she's outside her home. So the guy is admitting that an 80 year old Muslim woman could kick his ass.

BTW and mentioned elsewhere, I got a TTC mask exemption card for my dead brother. Loophole in the system?
 
My comment would be that an 80 year old Muslim woman wears a face covering whenever she's outside her home. So the guy is admitting that an 80 year old Muslim woman could kick his ass.

BTW and mentioned elsewhere, I got a TTC mask exemption card for my dead brother. Loophole in the system?
My comment is that an 80 year old Muslim woman is not required by the government here to wear a hijab at all times. She decides.
As for your brother, he qualifies for an exemption. No loophole.

If you're truly compliant with the mask rules, you shouldn't have to wear one often. Only during that once a month when you go shopping for food. If your wife is an essential worker, and you aren't, she should be doing the shopping, and you shouldn't have to wear a mask, ever.

I understand your frustration, but everyone's a snowflake now.
 
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