That doesn't change the fact That the LIEberals have spent the last 9.5 years laughing at those organizations and doubled down on wasting my money.
Or do you agree that a few dozen women in a village in the Congo need $1.2M to further gender empowered farming initiatives (one of hundreds of examples)?
That would be refreshing AF but there is zero chance of that happening in reality.
Everyone in Ottawa will have some sort of bias or a master to serve.
It would be pick and choose exactly like what is happening down south.
Indeed, can you imagine what the Moroccan people would do without multimillion dollar pottery classes, it would be a disaster... some programs need to be cut immediately while others need a second look, common sense should be able to prevail which is which.
Let's not kid ourselves. DOGE may make some mistakes, but they are finding PLENTY to be concerned about. There are tens of millions of people receiving social assistance that haven't been alive for years (sometimes many years), according to them. People are just funnelling tax dollars to themselves - this MUST be stopped or people paying taxes can be assured that their money is just taken petulantly - it will not help them in anyway, just be stolen.
There are not tens of millions of dead people receiving SSA in the US. Don't get sucked into the lies and exaggerations from Musk and Trump. Musk is saying there are people 150 years old receiving pensions, This is total BS. Trump is now saying Ukraine started the war with Russia. Again, total BS.
DOGE is indiscriminately firing people and shutting down programs that the MAGA crowd don't agree with. There is no restructuring or reengineering happening. Absolutely anyone could do this. Want savings from the Government of Canada. No problem, just fire 10 - 15% of employees in all departments. Last in, first out. However............... want better service, or more effective service, or service at all, well, that's another story.
There is no doubt that there is waste in government programs here in canada, but the way the reductions are now being made in the US is pathetic. The usual Trump lies and misdirection and lousy outcomes. The US will be picking up the pieces from this process for years.
In the corporate world indiscriminate cuts like this rarely workout well but can make someone look like a hero in the short term. I know of a case (as an example, one of many) where the new VP fired all the senior maintenance people. Not needed, cost too much, yada, yada. The numbers looked great for a year and a little then it went downhill really fast as everything fell apart. VP was fired in two years but got a wopper of a bonus when the numbers looked great, then a golden parachute. I expect the same in the US. Numbers may look good until they don't...
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As for in Canada, the entire concept as presented is dead in the water. Wait a half dozen years, rebrand and do it smarter, maybe?
Let's not kid ourselves. DOGE may make some mistakes, but they are finding PLENTY to be concerned about. There are tens of millions of people receiving social assistance that haven't been alive for years (sometimes many years), according to them. People are just funnelling tax dollars to themselves - this MUST be stopped or people paying taxes can be assured that their money is just taken petulantly - it will not help them in anyway, just be stolen.
It's common for elderly immigrants to return to their home countries to retire. Families are supposed to inform Service Canada when someone dies abroad -- many don't so they can continue to receive their parent's CPP, OAS pension and other gov't rebates after death.
Another thing I remember seeing was Canadians living abroad in low-income countries but keeping a Canadian bank account and address to collect Child Tax credits. A mother of 3 living abroad can $25K tax-free a year, with 5 kits that's over $40K -- it's not legal, but it happens more than you might think.
In the corporate world indiscriminate cuts like this rarely workout well but can make someone look like a hero in the short term. I know of a case (as an example, one of many) where the new VP fired all the senior maintenance people. Not needed, cost too much, yada, yada. The numbers looked great for a year and a little then it went downhill really fast as everything fell apart. VP was fired in two years but got a wopper of a bonus when the numbers looked great, then a golden parachute. I expect the same in the US. Numbers may look good until they don't...
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As for in Canada, the entire concept as presented is dead in the water. Wait a half dozen years, rebrand and do it smarter, maybe?
I've been there a few times... it generally works out for the company.
Sure there will be companies that execute poorly, but a proper reduction in force focuses on pruning dead wood first, then removing unnecessary functions - it's never indiscriminate unless they are offing a business unit or contracting out. Once the RIF is complete, the best performers ought to be left. Those left behind have the opportunity to rise quickly -- they will step up and things will bounce back better.
If you decide to save oldtimers and friends who are low performers your mileage will vary.
I've been there a few times... it generally works out for the company.
Sure there will be companies that execute poorly, but a proper reduction in force focuses on pruning dead wood first, then removing unnecessary functions - it's never indiscriminate unless they are offing a business unit or contracting out. Once the RIF is complete, the best performers ought to be left. Those left behind have the opportunity to rise quickly -- they will step up and things will bounce back better.
If you decide to save oldtimers and friends who are low performers your mileage will vary.
I haven't heard of even a whisper of performance evaluation in DOGE. They target departments and use seniority and maybe job title to swing the axe. It will be interesting to see the fallout. Are fired government workers a class? A law firm would love to have hundreds of thousands in the class that were in invincible jobs and now have trouble finding employment (market flooded with unemployed and many jobs are mostly government employed so moving to private sector requires a career change).
Let's not kid ourselves. DOGE may make some mistakes, but they are finding PLENTY to be concerned about. There are tens of millions of people receiving social assistance that haven't been alive for years (sometimes many years), according to them. People are just funnelling tax dollars to themselves - this MUST be stopped or people paying taxes can be assured that their money is just taken petulantly - it will not help them in anyway, just be stolen.
Agreed. This can easily be remedied with better inter government data sharing.
Someone dies in Ontario, the Ontario govt sends notification to federal agency and payment / benefit is dropped accordingly.
If a person leaves then immigration sends out docs to federal agency and payment is dropped.
Hell I know people that worked here for many years and went to Poland / Europe and are just collecting their pensions, OAS, and CPP while overseas.
I see no issue with it because we worked for it, contributed to it, and who cares where it’s used up? Hell I plan on doing that. Maybe not full time, but spend a good portion of my retired years in Poland with cousins.
Wife doesn’t like the plan as she wants to be near kids. But it doesn’t mean kids will want to be near us.
It’s a problem for 20 years from now, if I live that long.
Sure. I’ve seen it where the remaining talent upped anchors and moved to a company that didn’t seem as ruthless too. Trust and loyalty is a two way street.
Cuts for survival are generally accepted (painfully) by a workforce, cuts for the sake of cuts are just seen as greed.
I've been there a few times... it generally works out for the company.
Sure there will be companies that execute poorly, but a proper reduction in force focuses on pruning dead wood first, then removing unnecessary functions - it's never indiscriminate unless they are offing a business unit or contracting out. Once the RIF is complete, the best performers ought to be left. Those left behind have the opportunity to rise quickly -- they will step up and things will bounce back better.
If you decide to save oldtimers and friends who are low performers your mileage will vary
I haven't heard of even a whisper of performance evaluation in DOGE. They target departments and use seniority and maybe job title to swing the axe. It will be interesting to see the fallout. Are fired government workers a class? A law firm would love to have hundreds of thousands in the class that were in invincible jobs and now have trouble finding employment (market flooded with unemployed and many jobs are mostly government employed so moving to private sector requires a career change).
From what I understand it's been 10-15 min interviews of being asked "what exactly do you do here". If you can't relay the duties and importance of your job in 15 mins there's is a good chance you don't deserve to be in your position no matter where you work.
The indiscriminate is my point. It always does a few things short term, and it will here.
The people let go could be the top or lowest performing, no one bothers to look.
Institutional knowledge is lost--some may say that is half the point?
Productivity has a short uptick as people are afraid for their jobs, they quickly see it does not matter and all start to slack more than ever.
The truly best and in demand people leave as things get ugly as they can, crap and dead weight stays behind as they have no choice.
Keep in mind some of the context, intelligence, security, nuclear....
Lots of companies will layoff say 10% in a shot but some do it better than others. Some totally screw it up...
From what I understand it's been 10-15 min interviews of being asked "what exactly do you do here". If you can't relay the duties and importance of your job in 15 mins there's is a good chance you don't deserve to be in your position no matter where you work.
From what I understand it's been 10-15 min interviews of being asked "what exactly do you do here". If you can't relay the duties and importance of your job in 15 mins there's is a good chance you don't deserve to be in your position no matter where you work.
That's what happened at twitter. From what I have heard about the current cuts, it's just feeding names into a wood chipper. Everyone on probation-> fired. Everyone (or the most junior x percent) that works for a certain agency -> fired. That's how they ended up firing the nuclear inspectors as they didn't even bother looking at what their job was, if it was important or if those employees did it well.
There are not tens of millions of dead people receiving SSA in the US. Don't get sucked into the lies and exaggerations from Musk and Trump. Musk is saying there are people 150 years old receiving pensions, This is total BS. Trump is now saying Ukraine started the war with Russia. Again, total BS.
Here's what Musk said verbatim: “There are FAR more 'eligible' social security numbers than there are citizens” and “a lot of vampires are collecting Social Security.”
There are 20+ million dead persons over 100 that are dead but not recorded as deceased in the SSA records. A small fraction of those are paid fraudulent benefits. There is no count of how many people under 100 are deceased. I don't believe Musk quantified the number of dead collecting SSA, or that there were 150 year olds collecting SSA.
The takeaway here is the gov't has not been diligent in keeping records up to date. At 115 years old, they assume you're dead and cut off benefits From what I understand, there are only a handful of Americans that ever reached 115, there are none today.
DOGE is indiscriminately firing people and shutting down programs that the MAGA crowd don't agree with. There is no restructuring or reengineering happening. Absolutely anyone could do this. Want savings from the Government of Canada. No problem, just fire 10 - 15% of employees in all departments. Last in, first out. However............... want better service, or more effective service, or service at all, well, that's another story.
There is no doubt that there is waste in government programs here in canada, but the way the reductions are now being made in the US is pathetic. The usual Trump lies and misdirection and lousy outcomes. The US will be picking up the pieces from this process for years.
The US is running a $2T deficit, the saved money isn't going to another cause but is lowering the overall interest paid by the country because its money they don't have to borrow. A penny saved is a penny earned.
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