Do we need a different classification system for members?

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nobbie48

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Now, we basically have supporters who get to post everywhere including the trash section and non supporters who get into just about everything else.

We have several threads locked down because people got their shorts in knots about other opinions or interpretations of facts. The for sale forums do not allow questions or comments because of communication abuses. The fallen rider threads seem to be watched very carefully for hints of criticism.

We have lost valuable members, I assume because they were goaded into making posts that resulted in them being banned.

Many of the threads that have been locked still had value.

If you follow enough topics you get to know who has expertise in the subjects and we have a lot of potential good advice here. It's a shame it can get locked away.

Do we need to ban more posters?

Do we need to increase the workload on the mods by making them babysit?

Do we put people on partial bans? A member gets restricted posting access to contentious topics

How about a online version of the cuss jar? One freebee with a warning and after that any obnoxious post costs $X with the income going to the mods for the extra work.

How about we just ignore the ignorant?

I wonder if this thread will get banned.
 
Lightcycle said:
This is a motorcycle forum.

If all you talk about is motorcycles, then no posters need to be banned, no threads need to be locked.

I have absolutely no problem with threads about COVID, politics, housing, religion, Stonks, and Harley-Davidsons being deleted or moved to TT.
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I need to start an oil thread or a thread on when and how to lay the bike down to save yourself.

Those should be safe topics for a motorcycle forum.

There shouldn't be any discourse.

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Lightcycle said:
This is a motorcycle forum.

If all you talk about is motorcycles, then no posters need to be banned, no threads need to be locked.

I have absolutely no problem with threads about COVID, politics, housing, religion, Stonks, and Harley-Davidsons being deleted or moved to TT.
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Merge romper room with trash talk? IMO any loss would be minimal.

I can see some pest posting "How are you changing your oil during Covid"
 
Most of the posts that have been locked recently were thoughtful and fact based for the most part. Yeah, there was some circular arguments going on on the minutae of some topics, but I think *most* members were open minded to facts when they were presented to them. But a few people want to dismiss facts and dictate their perceived views based on their own realities (however detached) with a heaping serving of politics on top of it for their own "feel good" measure.

The request was that the discussions stay civil and without politics. The lack of reality in some peoples posts, well, it is what it is I guess.

But as I interpreted it, civility and without politics were the primary requests, yet some people can't bring themselves to maintain that. So here we are.

I'm disappointed they were closed as well, but as someone who has experience in this sort of stuff I'm fairly confident for every one thing we see on this side of the fence, the staff are seeing 10x more on the back end in compliant PM's and reports. So I understand it....sometimes it's easier to just lock a thread versus having to sit around and babysit it.

But yes, ultimately, removing (even temporarily, to see if the message gets received) the problem makers is a good solution while allowing the rest who can follow the rules (as laid out, like them, or not) to continue the discussion.
 
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bakaboy said:
There shouldn't be any discourse.
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I'm not saying there shouldn't be any discourse about non-motorcycling related topics.

Just stating that my reasons for coming onto GTAMotorcycle.com is to talk about motorcycles. The rest, I can take or leave.

If you look at your post history and there's absolutely no motorcycle content, and you primarily come on here to air your views on non-motorcycle-related topics and feel like you are being stifled when those non-motorcycle topics get deleted, may I suggest that you're in the wrong place?
 
bakaboy said:
I need to start an oil thread or a thread on when and how to lay the bike down to save yourself.

Those should be safe topics for a motorcycle forum.

There shouldn't be any discourse.

:)
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How about winter storage? Temps are up..,can we start digging up motorcycles from their earth storage spaces?
 
When I joined this forum many years ago I found it to be a pretty unattractive place. Posters seemed to get a kick out of attacking each other. That was a long time ago and my perception is 180 degrees from where it was back then. Maybe people have grown up, maybe I just find responses less offensive, I don't know. What I do know is that this forum is a great resource and it doesn't seem broken to me.

For the most part I lurk and read threads that are of interest to me and will only contribute when I feel I have something of value to add so I am not connected to the cliques or politics. I do know that I enjoy contributions by many that have posted above me in this thread so I will take the time now to thank you!
 
I like the forum and can contribute where I know something about the topic. Motorcycle or not, I like the forum.

Obviously the last 2 years primarily not motorcycle related, but I’ve learned about very different topics and this is why I keep coming back. Plus I can’t stop my reaction score now.

sure there are some that like conflict and arguing....but we’re people...I wouldn’t have it any other way.
 
One of the differences between the early days of gtam and now, is that we used to get together a lot more. When you put a face and voice to someone, it's a lot harder to be a keyboard hero later.
 
Wingboy said:
One of the differences between the early days of gtam and now, is that we used to get together a lot more. When you put a face and voice to someone, it's a lot harder to be a keyboard hero later.
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I will meet you :love:
 
I mostly ignore the politics threads, but it was getting annoying when eight out of ten recent threads under 'New Posts' were political (particularly US political) or Romper Room. The forum isn't working well when you have to sift through that much crap to get to bike stuff, at least not for me. I was greatly relieved when many were purged and suddenly bike stuff was up front again.

Granted, I haven't been here for long, and I can see the appeal if you've become a part of a community of wanting to broaden discussion topics. But maybe it would be better to not include that stuff in the 'New Threads' or however else folks are keeping an eye on what's posted. I'd love to be able to filter that out. Bless you all, but I'm not here for fireworks or politics. I get enough of that with my father-in-law at the dinner table...
 
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