600s are already so fast. litres are nuts. if u ride on the street with a litre bike how do u exercise total self control to not open her up on an empty stretch of road? cuz that's where a cop will be waiting most likely... but all it takes is a split second moment of giving into temptations and you are going 150+ kph.
do people who ride litre bikes have a lot of self control?
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If a cop is waiting then it's not really "empty"... 
For me it's not really the speed itself that is the most thrilling, it's more about the adrenaline that comes from a combination of speed and challenge that a given road poses.
And yes, it's not that hard to resist when things don't seem right... Find the right time and place.
For me it's not really the speed itself that is the most thrilling, it's more about the adrenaline that comes from a combination of speed and challenge that a given road poses.
And yes, it's not that hard to resist when things don't seem right... Find the right time and place.
If a cop is waiting then it's not really "empty"...
yeah but cops are always hiding.
If a cop is waiting then it's not really "empty"...
For me it's not really the speed itself that is the most thrilling, it's more about the adrenaline that comes from a combination of speed and challenge that a given road poses.
And yes, it's not that hard to resist when things don't seem right... Find the right time and place.
Couldn`t agree with you more.
A little common sense in the right place and the fun is all yours.
litrebikes. Pshaw.
You're not compensating for penis size until you hit 1200ccs. Then it's game on.
You're not compensating for penis size until you hit 1200ccs. Then it's game on.
That was his point. Just because you don't see something, does not mean it is not there. As for having self control, I would say I have more common sense thatn self control. The problem with not seeing cops is that you also may not have seen something else. I find it odd that people will say it was safe to speed in a certain area, because they did not see anyone, yet they got a ticket. Wonder if anyone tried that argument in court as defense.
I spent 3 yrs on an 05 GSXR1000. It was the fastest bike I ever owned in 29 yrs of being on 2 wheels, yet I rode it slower, on average, than any streetbike I ever owned. I even rode my SHadow500 faster, on average (180 kmh, everywhere, all the time) when I was 16.
I went on a group ride once with a bunch of people from Toronto area, up thru the Muskokas and back around the east side of lake Simcoe. I had the fastest bike of the group except one Busa, yet I got left behind a number of times. I simply refused to ride 200 kmh, and split traffic, and basically behave like an outlaw. Then when I started racing, it made very clear to me, that I was riding 15 yr old sportbikes alot faster than I could ever push my much more capable GSXR on the street. The bike was really wasted....so I sold it for something more comfy, fun, and slower.
I went on a group ride once with a bunch of people from Toronto area, up thru the Muskokas and back around the east side of lake Simcoe. I had the fastest bike of the group except one Busa, yet I got left behind a number of times. I simply refused to ride 200 kmh, and split traffic, and basically behave like an outlaw. Then when I started racing, it made very clear to me, that I was riding 15 yr old sportbikes alot faster than I could ever push my much more capable GSXR on the street. The bike was really wasted....so I sold it for something more comfy, fun, and slower.
The Road Warrior
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Just because you own a litre bike (supersport) doesn't mean you automatically get the urge to ride like a maniac, it's just a bike, like any other, if you treat it right and respect it, it won't end up biting you in the ***. Litre bikes are actually a lot more user friendly for average everyday riding, more torque, more power = quieter and smoother all around ride. After a few years of Litre bikes, I would rather stop riding motorcycles than sit my *** on anything below as far as displacement goes, once you try one out, you'll never go back to smaller bikes, you'll realize how much they suck (smaller CC bikes), to put it plainly.
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The Road Warrior
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It has nothing to do with status, it's just a better performing machine, better for regular street riding, than a 600.
To each their own. I'm with Omnivore, I don't see the point to an SS on the street anymore, especially in Ontario. If I lived in Tennessee, near the Gap, you bet your *** I'd own a kitted out SS to rip up and down the Dragon everyday. Here in Ontario, we spend an hour at least to get to the decent roads, which means it's a pre-planned trip you usually make on the weekends. You wake up early, set off and spend your day riding to and from the good roads we have, which aren't always worth it.
Personally, I'd rather race an SS, and have a sport touring machine for the road so I can commute in comfort, yet still rip it on the twisties every so often. Or, a ridiculous supermotard that I can do the stupidest things with whenever and wherever I want.
Having ridden a GSX750 today (never been on a litre), I can see some of the appeal. But the engine noise and racy feeling of the bike got old quick since we were just doing straights. I was itching for some twisties.
And to answer the OP's question, it's actually pretty easy to control yourself on these kinds of bikes. Spend a day or two ringing it out in a straight line, get bored, and then you'll be good!
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I got mine because I wanted it. I didn't see it in any utilitarian categories---I simply wanted a liter bike.
The Road Warrior
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I agree with you for the most part, but what you are saying has nothing to do with what I was saying, I was just talking about the power and torque itself and how it makes the bike more "street friendly" than smaller displacement bikes. My point was if you really want to have an SS bike for regular street riding, 1000 would be a better choice, ofcourse provided that you have at least some riding experience.
Me personally, I stopped riding SS bikes because of comfort issues, and like you said not many decent places to ride em on.
socially distorted
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its my guess that most riders of litre bikes -- myself included -- have progressed from smaller street bikes over the years and have a fair amount of experience. Maybe that experience has taught us to respect the power a litre bike has, and realize it can bite you in the *** if you arent careful. The worst thing though, is that the speed delivery is so smooth that its easy to not realize how fast you are travelling when you are the only one on the road. Last year riding home from Sharbot Lake on hwy 7 i was doing about 90kms in an 80 but there was no traffic ahead of me, or behind me. As I took in the sights all around, my eyes werent on my speedo and because there were no cars in front for me to notice that i was catching up to, I really had no idea of my speed until a cruiser coming toward me put the lights on and i immediately looked down -- not believing for a second that it could possibly be ME that he would be after -- and i saw i was at around 110! Then after he wrote me up, he told me all about his Yamaha VMAX! It left me wondering how the hell HE keeps from speeding on THAT beast.
The Road Warrior
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In the 3 yrs I rode my GSXR1000, the max speed I EVER hit was 215 kmh...and only 1 time.
Maybe I am old......but going fast in a straight line isn't the way I get my ya-ya's out....and a turn that you have to exceed 200 kmh around, isn't really a turn at all, is it?
The 80 ft lbs of torque sure was nice....top gear passes from 80 kmh were just atwist of the wrist-no need to downshift. and lugging it thru twisty roads like Deals Gap in 3rd gear at 2000 rpm on up was easy. Cherohala Skyway was idled thru at a pretty good clip in 5th gear, smooth and quiet-like.
SO I knew I wanted to bottom end grunt that the GSXR had, and had no need for the 160 hp top end rush. SO I went with a big twin instead.
Maybe I am old......but going fast in a straight line isn't the way I get my ya-ya's out....and a turn that you have to exceed 200 kmh around, isn't really a turn at all, is it?
The 80 ft lbs of torque sure was nice....top gear passes from 80 kmh were just atwist of the wrist-no need to downshift. and lugging it thru twisty roads like Deals Gap in 3rd gear at 2000 rpm on up was easy. Cherohala Skyway was idled thru at a pretty good clip in 5th gear, smooth and quiet-like.
SO I knew I wanted to bottom end grunt that the GSXR had, and had no need for the 160 hp top end rush. SO I went with a big twin instead.
The Road Warrior
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This is exactly why Litre SS bikes are the better option than a 600.
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I have the same story as SD, only I was doing 149. No idea I was even over 100. The cop looked at me and said "one more KM and I could have taken your bike." I (smartly) said nothing. He was young, and not out to screw me over. He gave me a 29 over. You REALLY do as SD said have to keep your eye on your speedo as the power is so deceiving. Reference points in no traffic cruising situations are not reliable. I was wondering how I could tap into the ECU and put an audible alarm to go off at 149 in case I'm taking in the scenery.
There is nothing like the grunt of a liter bike. To know you can be doing 200 + in second gear is a very empowering feeling. That's where self control and maturity comes into play. Pick your spots, and pick them well.
There is nothing like the grunt of a liter bike. To know you can be doing 200 + in second gear is a very empowering feeling. That's where self control and maturity comes into play. Pick your spots, and pick them well.
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