Ours isn't subsidized the prices and production are set so farmers can make a decent living. Usa has to subsidize as they have no controls and farmers make less than minimum wage.
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Ding Dong, the witch is dead....
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Sometimes, incentives and government funding are necessary to steer things in the direction they should go. For example ... A short history of the internet | National Science and Media Museum
Electricity in Ontario is 0% powered by coal. There aren't any coal-fired generating stations remaining.
It's 16% in USA and declining. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
It was 16% in 2022 in EU and declining. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-is-eu-electricity-produced-and-sold/
China is the bugaboo that everyone complains about, but they are pushing strongly for renewable-source generation.
And EVs are so efficient that even with 100% coal-fired generation, CO2 emissions are still lower than if comparable combustion-engine vehicles were used.
I'm pretty sick of repeatedly having to debunk this (and citing sources).
Better get used to it. Sadly you'll be at it for a while.
We've got a couple decades to upgrade the infrastructure where needed.
And those 10 people probably aren't going to be all charging at the same time.
You know about "charge scheduling", right? I have my outdated-technology EV set to be 80% charged by 7:00 in the morning. What the car needs to do in order to achieve that, is up to the car. In practice it figures out when it needs to start charging in the wee hours of the morning (when practically nothing else in the house is using power) and goes on average for a couple hours. The next step beyond this is smart charging, in which the car (or its charging hardware) communicate with the grid to see when and how much power is available, and maybe my neighbor's car charges first because he has to be ready first, and then mine starts when theirs finishes, and my other neighbor's starts when mine is done.
I've been charging on a 120V receptacle this past week, because I want the car in the garage where it doesn't get either freezing cold or covered in snow or ice, and that's what I have in the garage. (The 240 is outside)
Norway is doing fine.
Sorry gotta take you to task here. Garages are for bikes. Period. Full stop.
Keeping your car in the garage in winter is about the worst thing you can do in terms of rust. If kept out in the cold all that frozen crud stays frozen and benign. Warm it up in the garage and it turns into salty brine that can creep into every little nook and crevice.
That said scraping windows is one of the things I hate most.
No not a subsidy a subsidy would be paid by taxpayers like in the US. Personally I think paying a fair price so people can make a decent living is better than throwing taxpayers money at the issue.
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I would say that we’ve “had” decades to prepare for this and haven’t. All of those ten houses on that 50KVA transformer will also have one or more of the following-air conditioners/ heat pumps, electric clothes dryer, electric ovens, hot tubs, hot water tanks who’s use you can’t really schedule with your neighbors. I don’t really think we have decades more to prepare our grids for this if the current mandate is for all new vehicles to be electric by 2035 , that gives us one decade at best.. I think that’s a pipe dream.
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Mad Mike
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I believe thePC plan to build an LNG polar ports will supply the world an enormous amount of LNG as a coal replacement option (>50% reduction).
That has the potential to make Canada financially rich, and responsible for the largest removal of carbon emissions on earth.
Mad Mike
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Except they don’t do that. The carbon tax funds $300m collection/disbursement infrastructure (100% of these funds do not reduce carbon) and the funds are used for a socialist redistribution of wealth scheme.
I’d has done less than zero to reduce carbon output in its 6 years of operation.
"A highly-anticipated peer-reviewed study finds that LNG has a greenhouse gas footprint that is 33 percent larger than coal. The data suggests the expansion of LNG is a major threat for the climate."
LNG is worse for the climate than coal – new study - Gas Outlook
A highly-anticipated peer-reviewed study finds that LNG has a greenhouse gas footprint that is 33 percent larger than coal.
gasoutlook.com
Cuba nationalized all the American assets which the Yanks would have taken as theft. Then the Monroe Doctrine thing with Commies on the doorstep.
Mad Mike
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That study was not peer reviewed at the time of your links. It did not pass peer review which turned up significant omissions, and conclusion driven ‘estimates’ wher hard facts were available."A highly-anticipated peer-reviewed study finds that LNG has a greenhouse gas footprint that is 33 percent larger than coal. The data suggests the expansion of LNG is a major threat for the climate."
LNG is worse for the climate than coal – new study - Gas Outlook
A highly-anticipated peer-reviewed study finds that LNG has a greenhouse gas footprint that is 33 percent larger than coal.
Peer debunked. .
After corrections suggested by peer reviews, the results were on par with decades of research that shows LNG substantially cleaner than coal.
Ontarios conversion off coal using LnG saves 50% on carbon. Then you have to consider air pollution (smog). Warnings were common when coal fired our plants, there are virtually zero industrial events now.
So, Captain Schmuck has flown to Alberta to snowboard, back to Ottawa, then back to Kelowna to snowboard (nice carbon footprint there, Ms. Climate Change) and the residents aren't too happy about having the privileged POS and his entourage interfere with their lives/livelihood (that aren't subsidized by taxpayers)...........
Oh, and this is the woman that shook his hand.
Oh, and this is the woman that shook his hand.
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I never paid much attention to the carbon tax.. and rebates. I always thought it didn't really apply to me.. I got a rebate on Friday.. 175K.. for a business that pays little to nothing into the carbon tax.
My initial response when I saw the rebate.. WTF.. has to be a mistake..why would hey give us anything? Must be an error.. but no, just another untended consequence of not thinking things thru properly... creating a loophole of sorts. My business... that business,.. doesn't deserve any rebate. It's ridiculous that we got it.
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