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COVID and the housing market

Was talking to my buddy in Alliston a few days ago. They bought their detached house for 575k early summer and he said they’re about 650k now give it take. Said they seem to have hit a wall around 700k and aren’t going for much more than that in his neighbourhood. He lives in the new development just north of the town centre.

I know a bunch of people who buy in the pre-construction phase, then sell it right when its finished or about to be finished, this way they dont have to deal with multiple bidders or mortgages(since they sell it before taking possession)

Ka-ching!

For the record, I now understand why mao killed the landlords.
 
I know a bunch of people who buy in the pre-construction phase, then sell it right when its finished or about to be finished, this way they dont have to deal with multiple bidders or mortgages(since they sell it before taking possession)

Ka-ching!

For the record, I now understand why mao killed the landlords.
I need to figure out how to do that lol.
 
Small home. Small lot. Single garage.
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I think I’ll be sending that to my buddy. He lives within 500m of that house on North St.
 
I think I’ll be sending that to my buddy. He lives within 500m of that house on North St.
Asking prices these days don't tell the true story. It's really insane. We paid $215000 28 years ago. Probably $1.2 mil+ now. Can't see these prices holding post covid. Personally I don't care. If I sell I have to still buy in the same market. Tough for 1st time buyers though. I can't imagine.
 
Asking prices these days don't tell the true story. It's really insane. We paid $215000 28 years ago. Probably $1.2 mil+ now. Can't see these prices holding post covid. Personally I don't care. If I sell I have to still buy in the same market. Tough for 1st time buyers though. I can't imagine.
Even if I sold my house for 1.2M or more....at today’s prices I’d get 1/2-3/4 of the house I have now, with a way smaller yard. Unless I move far far away. No thanks.
 
Looking at prices I might sell our rental condo and pay off the home mortgage.

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I've always found condos...interesting.. When they're new the maintenance fees are low...when they're old...they're high...so I imagine its probably hard to sell non-current condos
 
Looking at prices I might sell our rental condo and pay off the home mortgage.

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That’s a pretty sweet deal. Get rid off the condo, sure you won’t have the income but you get rid of a large debt and are free and clear. Majority of Canadians will never see that type of freedom in their lives.

Im curious how long this lasts, and what will happen once rates rise again. Just spoke with my cousins and they said they’re in variable mortgage on the house, and are worried their payments will go up again. Told them to call their broker as they may be able to lock in now with no penalty into a low interested fixed mortgage. They’re up for renewal in a year.
 
I've always found condos...interesting.. When they're new the maintenance fees are low...when they're old...they're high...so I imagine its probably hard to sell non-current condos
Many also date badly, and it's hard to update a 30 story building, so become less desirable over time.
 
I've always found condos...interesting.. When they're new the maintenance fees are low...when they're old...they're high...so I imagine its probably hard to sell non-current condos
Low fees to bring you in, high fees once the reality of condo maintenance is actually realized and the rates have to reflect it.
 
I've always found condos...interesting.. When they're new the maintenance fees are low...when they're old...they're high...so I imagine its probably hard to sell non-current condos

Really depends on how the reserve fund is managed. I've seen some older buildings that are well-managed that have only increased maintenance fees in step with inflation.

Others mask how rough shape the reserve fund is by levying so many Special Assessment Fees that they might as well be incorporated into the monthly maintenance fee anyway.

I have stories...
 
I've always found condos...interesting.. When they're new the maintenance fees are low...when they're old...they're high...so I imagine its probably hard to sell non-current condos

It goes in phases. At the beginning, a lot of problems are covered by warrantees and fees are low. Then the normal stuff kicks in and fees go up to a reasonable amount. The class of tenant is a factor. The next stage comes when the building is older and systems like fire alarms have to be upgraded for a hundred grand or more. Then the parking garage and balconies rot out and it can be millions on a large structure.

Low rise or townhouse condos are less problematic due to the lack of elevators and underground parking. Some townhouses do have common garages and I have personally been involved with one that turned into a feud over garage repairs.

Loft conversions are interesting. The structures are old enough to have stabilized and most work to do the conversion is surface mounted and theoretically more accessible than stuff that was thrown into a slab pour. Theoretically again, that should make service easier and less costly.

One thing Harris and company did right was to revamp the condo act. Before that there was virtually nothing to force the corporations to have realistic reserve funds. Now the condo has to review every three years and make sure the money is there for the new roof or elevator. That doesn't mean that an unforeseen issue can't break the bank.

I suspect that Harris foresaw the problem of hundreds of thousands of voters in a repair bind and begging for grants and low interest loans to do the work.
 
Right now it looks like nothing for sale around the area it is in. Townhouse style condo. I would not want anything to do with maintenance fees personally but can see the attraction for people with zero skills.

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Right now it looks like nothing for sale around the area it is in. Townhouse style condo. I would not want anything to do with maintenance fees personally but can see the attraction for people with zero skills.

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I think the fee on a friend's TH condo is about $250 a month. He has a two car garage and can park another two vehicles in the driveway.

The upside:
If I understand it correctly anything exterior is paid for by the condo and inside by him. He doesn't have to shovel snow, garden or mow lawn. A lot of liability is on the condo insurance and he doesn't have to put away for a new roof. They just installed a new front door and fixed the steps. If he wants to he can park a six pack of motorcycles in his garage and even work on them. With the door closed there are no browsers in unmarked vans.

if you buy a bargain TH that has been trashed, light skill levels can turn it into a money maker because a lot of people don't even have the light skills. An IKEA kitchen and tart up bling.

The chances of a major structural event are minimal.

The downside:
I suspect he can't do anything interior that would go deeper than the drywall. He can renovate the kitchen and baths, tart up the decor, do flooring etc. He can't put on an addition, different windows, re-frame walls etc. The windows would have to be in keeping with the standard appearance of the complex. If he did a massive kitchen and bath upgrade, he wouldn't get much of the cost back. Most complexes have set values and nothing raises them very much. A dump does drive buyers away

He only has one adjoining unit so only one source of sounds and smells. The others have two sources.

High rise:

It's a different animal with lots of expensive maintenance items like elevators, parking garages, gyms, pools, exercise rooms. Even carpet is a big deal. The hall runners don't last long when there are ten families in a wing, following the same path daily. Parking security issues and four or more sources of noise / smell etc, no outdoor space. The typical fees are 3X the TH and there's a higher probability of a special assessment for balcony or garage remediation.

Other than the view (If decent) I can't think of a single advantage of a HR condo. Waiting for elevators, hauling groceries etc.

A personal thought. If you go by a friend's place and you see only his car in the driveway you might just knock on the door and say hi. That could happen with a TH or detached but with a HR you have to book an appointment. I lost touch with a friend when he moved into a HR. Maybe it was to avoid me.

A couple of hundred to avoid gardening and shovelling is OK by me. Triple that and losing the ability to do my own thing is all wrong. Someone else posted that they would want an industrial unit as a man cave. So would I. I actually did have one but it cost about ten grand a year to keep with no mortgage. The other factor was the half hour drive to the place where I kept the bikes. It wasn't convenient like an attached garage.

To each his own.
 
You might have saved me a lot of headache
I owe you a beer @nobbie48
 
I know a bunch of people who buy in the pre-construction phase, then sell it right when its finished or about to be finished, this way they dont have to deal with multiple bidders or mortgages(since they sell it before taking possession)

Ka-ching!

For the record, I now understand why mao killed the landlords.
That's a dangerous game.... I believe speculation and flipping are considered normal income. The tax man will cometh with a big claw.
 
Speaking of, if you have a townhome without a garage, but treat the secure backyard as a garage with your bike under lock and cover...will your neighbors be annoyed if every time you have to go for a ride you move(not ride) your bike over the common grass to go for a ride?

Sinces its technically not their property and your not doing any damage to the grass by just carrying your bike over to the parking lot to go for a ride?

Would love to hear your stories @Lightcycle

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Also what the hell is this? Thats your neck of the woods aint it?

 
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Speaking of, if you have a townhome without a garage, but treat the secure backyard as a garage with your bike under lock and cover...will your neighbors be annoyed if every time you have to go for a ride you move(not ride) your bike over the common grass to go for a ride?

Sinces its technically not their property and your not doing any damage to the grass by just carrying your bike over to the parking lot to go for a ride?
It depends on your neighbours/the board. If you are allowed to do that, I would treat every day as a blessing and assume that at some point in the future that would be shut down. They can probably site a litany of reasons (no vehicle movement permitted over lawn, no vehicle storage outside of designated parking spaces, safety of residents in common spaces etc), but ultimately none of that matters, the door slams shut and your choice is move or comply.
 
It depends on your neighbours/the board. If you are allowed to do that, I would treat every day as a blessing and assume that at some point in the future that would be shut down. They can probably site a litany of reasons (no vehicle movement permitted over lawn, no vehicle storage outside of designated parking spaces, safety of residents in common spaces etc), but ultimately none of that matters, the door slams shut and your choice is move or comply.

Bang on! I was talking to a property manager regarding a particular building and asked him if a motorcycle could be parked in the garage and he said No. He was fairly open that the official excuse was a possible tip over and spill of gas but in reality the owners just didn't want them.

If the majority of owners don't want something, excuses are a dime a dozen. If you are getting away with something you need a plan "B" for when the rules change.

One thing that irks me is that, for some, the word "Condo" seems to exude class nobility. Some people take on airs because they walk through a marble lobby on their way to their drawer in the filing cabinet. Some condos have exclusive sounding names and I'd get a service call: "This is Clara from Triple Oaks and we need a man here immediately" as if I knew the address of every condo in southern Ontario by its pet name.

The snobbery continues into the parking garage. A PM told me one woman wanted the rules changed because she didn't want a pickup truck parked next to her new Camry. The pickup was worth way more than her Camry.

If contemplating a condo learn the meaning of "Common element, exclusive use". Typically your balcony and parking spaces are common element, exclusive use. You don't own them but only you are allowed to use them. You can not modify them in any way. No painting, flooring, cabinets, partitions, lights etc.
 
I remember having one of the board members come up to me and tell me I can’t perform work on my car while I’m changing tires. There was some clause in the condo documents. But it was very vague.

I asked him can I change my wipers? Yes
Can I put in windshield washer fluid? Yes
So where do you draw the line?
his response was that it isn’t allowed if certain tools were being used.
So I asked what tools are not allowed?
He told me to **** off and not do the work.

finished the tires, and did my brakes a week later.

then I joined the board and beat him for the seat in the vote.

one of the issues was a guy a few doors down was working on his suspension, and the car fell off the Jack and crushed him (he survived) and his doctors found a blood clot which would’ve killed him if not found. So I guess he was lucky to have a car crush him....
 

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