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jc100 said:
All students it seems
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The 20-something age group is the biggest growing infection group right now hands down.

They never really grasped the seriousness of all this because they feel invincible. This is an "old person" problem and most of them don't care. With the easier to spread variants now making up the majority of infection we are seeing the results of their actions.

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Grandmother had both shots done last month Mother gets her second shot next week. I should get mine next month. Not sure why the rest of the province is so far behind wellington?

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How come we are not hearing about any infant death do to covid?
 
Government made a plan for vaccine distribution, then a came a shortage and lobby groups getting involved.

Now ????
 
Wingboy said:
Yes, i am. I can picture a bunch of healthcare bs and red tape. I'll wait a few more weeks. Grumble grumble.
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They may not know if you haven’t made it clear to the right person. My two friends were vaccinated weeks ago in Whitby as they were primary caregivers to a family member.
 
jc100 said:
They may not know if you haven’t made it clear to the right person. My two friends were vaccinated weeks ago in Whitby as they were primary caregivers to a family member.
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Our family doctor knows our situation and told us that he would take care of the timing. I'm not worried. I don't go anywhere anyway.
 
They have to sit on enough perishable stock for the second round. That makes it hugely complicated.
If the first round group don't get the second shot the first one becomes a wasted shot.
 
Brian P said:
Once the rest of us have access to the vaccine, what remains will be a self-correcting problem.
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Yes and no. The people who refuse and get covid after the fact become incubators for new variants which can then spread in their ilk and mutate even more.

The ones we have now are “Variant of concern”. I was listening to 60 minutes today at work (Podcast) and the scientists are worried that the one may evebtuallly come up a “Variant of significant danger” or something like that. Basically, one that the current vaccines don’t work on at all.

And then we risk ending up at square one again.

The solution is mass vaccination and dead-ending the virus instead of giving it little circles to continue to run around in

Wingboy said:
Yes, i am. I can picture a bunch of healthcare bs and red tape. I'll wait a few more weeks. Grumble grumble.
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You should check into it. Here they’re doing drive through even. Doesn’t get much simpler.
 
"The people who refuse and get covid after the fact become incubators for new variants"
:unsure: now you're just making stuff up. Chill and stay very very healthy.
 
Trials said:
"The people who refuse and get covid after the fact become incubators for new variants"
:unsure: now you're just making stuff up. Chill and stay very very healthy.
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no he’s right..you only get variants through mutations....you only get mutations when the virus replicates....you only get the virus replicating in a human with no immune defences through vaccination.
 
Yes, he's right. Mutations happen when viruses (or any other biological matter) replicate, and mistakes happen, that's what a mutation is. A mutation will usually be disfavorable ... those mutations go nowhere. Once in a while, through random chance, one will be favorable for the virus. Those take over from the original. No replication = no mutations. A long tail to this pandemic means the opportunity for mutation continues.
 
jc100 said:
no he’s right..you only get variants through mutations....you only get mutations when the virus replicates....you only get the virus replicating in a human with no immune defences through vaccination.
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What about the rest of the animal species. That's all good?
They killed a million+ Mink for no reason or for good reason:unsure:
this thing come from humans or another species to begin with?

Kinda all depends on where you stand on that part.
 
Trials said:
What about the rest of the animal species. That's all good?
They killed a million+ Mink for no reason or for good reason:unsure:
this thing come from humans or another species to begin with?

Kinda all depends on where you stand on that part.
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I've heard a rumour that if cats could spread it, they would.
 
Trials said:
They have to sit on enough perishable stock for the second round. That makes it hugely complicated.
If the first round group don't get the second shot the first one becomes a wasted shot.
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This isn't what real world usage has been showing. The UK is on a strategy of vaccinating their entire population (or almost all of it) with one shot followed by the second that will follow 3 months later. With one shot in the books, their infection rate has been plummeting fast. If one shot is that effective, the delay to the second isn't an issue. Historically, booster shots have normally been a few months after the first shot - historically, that's what has been found most effective, and it is highly likely that it will be no different with this virus.

That isn't what was tested in the phase 3 trials, because the world needed something "pretty good" that could be used NOW, without spending years studying what would be the absolute statistically optimum way to do it.
 
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