My wife just got her call, getting her shot in about a half hour.
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We are about to find out
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sburns
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I found this article a little interesting. My take away is the gov still has work to do in terms of allowances/restrictions, but I understand some communities in the GTA (peel) have had some trouble with following the rules, social distancing, gatherings, etc and makes this situation challenging.
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‘Makes no sense’: Archbishop slams COVID restrictions that allow more people inside a liquor store than a church funeral
Cardinal Thomas Collins urges parishioners to contact MPPs to request restrictions on places of worship “use a percentage of capacity as opposed to an arbitrary number.”
pfbmgd
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I found this article a little interesting. My take away is the gov still has work to do in terms of allowances/restrictions, but I understand some communities in the GTA (peel) have had some trouble with following the rules, social distancing, gatherings, etc and makes this situation challenging.
‘Makes no sense’: Archbishop slams COVID restrictions that allow more people inside a liquor store than a church funeral
Cardinal Thomas Collins urges parishioners to contact MPPs to request restrictions on places of worship “use a percentage of capacity as opposed to an arbitrary number.”
Put rules in effect that make sense . Then people will follow them .
Just like speed limits . Make them reasonable and people will follow them .
Yes rules are good. GTAM has rules about insults. Telling other members that their posts are dumb, is an insult. Ok?
It doesn't make sense.I found this article a little interesting. My take away is the gov still has work to do in terms of allowances/restrictions, but I understand some communities in the GTA (peel) have had some trouble with following the rules, social distancing, gatherings, etc and makes this situation challenging.
‘Makes no sense’: Archbishop slams COVID restrictions that allow more people inside a liquor store than a church funeral
Cardinal Thomas Collins urges parishioners to contact MPPs to request restrictions on places of worship “use a percentage of capacity as opposed to an arbitrary number.”
That means that a funeral happening in downtown’s St. Michael’s Cathedral next weekend must be capped at 10 people “while around the corner dozens can enter the local liquor store” or stream into the Eaton Centre, Collins wrote, noting the arrangement “makes no sense.” The cathedral has a capacity for 1,500 people.
The one thing that may be a stumbling block is that stores can halt entry when the numbers hit the limit. It is somewhat inferred for regular church services "Everyone welcome". How do you enforce?
A bit of open dialog with Ford would help.
pfbmgd
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My observation with Costco from the past year .
I go during the day there is a small line up at times . The store is I would say 50% the usual capacity . Then I go during busy times the store is packed just like before covid .The line up is the length of the store .
During the day the store maybe doing 50K and hour in sales ( estimate ) . During the busy time they are probably making 100K plus an hour . My observation is the store manager takes a chance with a small fine to make the big bucks . Especially just after the inspectors leave his store .
What I’m seeing that don’t make since to me is the restaurant is allowed 10 customers too serve in, but the local grocery stores are allowed almost full capacity in line ups
Today alone i was at the local coffee place and at least 15 people waiting in a line that was not keeping 6ft apart.
Today alone i was at the local coffee place and at least 15 people waiting in a line that was not keeping 6ft apart.
And how many of those activities require being there in person to stay alive? While I don't agree with the rules as they have implemented them, some of the pushback is also stupid. Do you really want to put 150+ seniors in a room and have them hang out for an hour? I guess that speeds up the churches access to their estates.
... And how long do you spend near the same other person in a restaurant vs in church vs in a bar vs in a grocery store?
... And what are the relative probabilities of hugs and kisses?
... And in each of those activities, are people singing/yelling/talking loudly without masks?
... And what are the relative probabilities of hugs and kisses?
... And in each of those activities, are people singing/yelling/talking loudly without masks?
sburns
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I would have to say most if not all church going people I have met, and worked with have all been very respectful. If there is a group who would generally respect the rules in place it would be them. Groups at restaurants drinking beers not so much.
Plus with the size of some of these religious venues are quite large and could easily accommodate more people with distancing.
Not all seniors go to church, I know plenty of youth groups involved in their community churches.
Basically there is no clear easy way to deal with this chit. And after a year, it's becoming numbing.
Plus with the size of some of these religious venues are quite large and could easily accommodate more people with distancing.
Not all seniors go to church, I know plenty of youth groups involved in their community churches.
Basically there is no clear easy way to deal with this chit. And after a year, it's becoming numbing.
Have you seen the articles about the church in KW? Straight-up rejecting science and trusting god. Packing the church, not wearing masks week after week. Pass the plate to cover the fine. They aren't the only ones. Being stupid is not affected by religion. The safest thing by miles is avoiding contact. Sure you can spread out and wear masks and minimize the risk, but the odds are still infinitely higher than if you just didn't go and spend an hour in a building listening to someone talk.
You'd be surprised at the actual capacity of many large indoor buildings. A large grocery store may have a legal capacity of 1000 people, so even running at 75% capacity it may still seem crowded with 750.
Only difference is now....we're noticing it more than before when we never paid attention to how many people were actually in these places until we got to the front and all the tills were lined up.
Google the Baader Meinhoff syndrome. That's what a lot of us are experiencing through this - things are seem different because we've become more focused to them.
you could probably guarantee at a funeral some protocols will go out the window, hugs, crying, more hugs. I understand the fellowship and community that is missing for Church folks, I miss my beer buddies, swapping stories and sideways politics. But as a 'part time' bar manager now, I can tell you 10 persons at a time is fine in side a bar. Because take 10 dufuses, add beer = dumb.
The patio rules are full retard, 4 sided curtains and a roof? its the same bar, just made out of plastic.
The patio rules are full retard, 4 sided curtains and a roof? its the same bar, just made out of plastic.
I fitted bidets to all my thrones...I will not be a slave to the paper overlords.
Also wakes me up when the mains water flows through freezing cold pipes.
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