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pfbmgd
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My house it already at 21 . How much lower do I need to go ?
Mad Mike
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Be careful here. I lived thru the iron curtain, i did business in E Germany, Russia, Czechoslovakia and Poland in the 80s. I remember Poland being particularly bleak... I had to take my own food on business trips a couple of times because hotels and restaurants had none.
Mad Mike
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I say tar the bastard. I have property issues in NY and FL, I take care of them by phone.
In in Durham Region.
And you're hearing wrong, or it's a home that's in severe outbreak and has made that decision on their own perhaps. It's not mandated.
This.
pfbmgd
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Unreal that most of the deaths are in old age homes . Yet they still allow visitors . The test is good at the time it is taken . You could the the VID 5 minutes later and bring it into the facility .
why tar the guy, his boss Mayor of Oakville Rob Burton (also head of halton police services signed off) . He'll go and come back and quarantine, he's a politician so certainly not essential.
possibly safer than a trip to Costco
Trials
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Old age home is a misnomer, you are either talking about a Long Term Care facility or a Retirement home. One has locks on the doors to keep you in/out and is funded by the healthcare system, the other is a fancy apartment building with care facilities. One is government, other is private.
Mad Mike
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A couple of reasons. We have all been asked to stand down to control the pandemic, the optics of public officials appearing to be exempt is bad.
No single trip flattens or accelerates the curve, im concerned about the impact of ‘if he can go to Florida’ I should be ok travelling 100km to see some friends/family.
I also have a problem with Burton signing off.
One final question- How did ‘property matters’ in FL and AZ become an epidemic for politicians during the holidays?
pfbmgd
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You can play with words . But the majority of the death are with people over 70 . This illness spreads like wildfire among them . These are the people in serious danger . There are people here wanting more restrictions . But go to places with older population with no issues . Look at the Numbers as who is dyeing and it's seniors over 70 .
Ya we have this coming up. Wife is going in for surgery if it’s not cancelled and she needs a negative COVID test within 4 days of going into the hospital. Conditions are no working or shopping for the time from the test to the surgery.
You're underestimating the level of PPE required and the precautions in place.
My wife has to show a negative covid test from the previous 7 days (admittedly and arguably a weak effort as one could test negative yesterday and actually be positive today, but better than nothing for asymptomatic positive people, so better than making no effort at all) and must also wear an approved mask and a face shield, gloves, and a gown. And then there's restrictions about where you can go, and you're not allowed to get within 5 feet of the person.
But she can go and visit for as many hours as she wants up until 11PM.
She is listed as a caregiver which is why she is still allowed to visit despite there being an outbreak in this home however - non essential visitors are now disallowed until it's over. Any home without an outbreak however is still allowing regular visitors.
If everyone uses the PPE as prescribed the chances of transmission are close to zero even if they were unknowingly positive..
The PROBLEM is when the deniers or the "this is all overblown" people get into their loved ones room and then promptly close the door and take off all that PPE and hug them etc etc. If they're unknowingly positive, well, they've just potentially introduced Covid into the home and could be responsible for the deaths of many other peoples family members.
Is that risk worth restricting even essential care givers from visiting so that the people in these homes question their desire to want to live anymore as they're effectively cut off from everyone that matters to them? They learned in the first shutdown the answer to that is a hard "No".
My wife has a surgery scheduled 4 weeks from now. She's already aware of the fact that if Covid continues to rage to the point where hospitals get overwhelmed her surgery may end up cancelled.
THIS is what pisses me off about people who complain endlessly about death rates, fake this, overblown that...blah blah blah...they don't seem to grasp that when a hospital gets overrun with people that need medical care because for whatever reason (varying from "I'm having trouble breathing" right up to people on ventilators needing 24/7 care), it trickles down.
pfbmgd
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You can BS all you want . The VID does not appear out of thin air . It is brought in by people from the outside .
The chances are not zero unless you are in a completely controlled environment . I doubt these homes have sterile rooms to don and doff the PPE . That are cleaned after every use .
I keep seeing the word denier . No one is denying there is a bad flu and it is killing the elderly . Going to visit the population that is most at risk is foolish .
That comedy gold coming from someone who is constantly posting that any form of lockdown is an infringement on people's rights.
Is there any stats showing how many of the test are showing negative results from it just being the flu?
I think those are on hold alongside the similar study to see whether elephantiasis also gives a positive COVID test.
Why do you always need to have a smart ass comment
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