Problem is once they get to the gate of the event, it's already too late.
How many people have they already infected on the way there?
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Problem is once they get to the gate of the event, it's already too late.
How many people have they already infected on the way there?
i don't, lived there for long enough, what's the population again?
sburns
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Not to mention food.
Mad Mike
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I've been more places in America than a Johnny Cash song -- you are correct there are some backward spots. But you could say the same about Canada. Have you ever stayed in Terrace, Summerside, Thompson, North Battleford -- I could name 500 more shi+hole places across the country that compare with rural Arkansas? I had a cottage just north of Kingston for years (Sharbot Lake), lots of guns, rusty pickups, ATV and riding lawnmower parking at the LCBO, and I don't think they have a dentist in the area.
My point is you go where you're comfortable, there's something for everyone.
Understood.
I was coming at it from the point of view of what the aggregate attitude is down south, regarding viewing COVID-19 as a hoax, pushing to reopen businesses/parks/etc. and how it could lead to disaster for the rest of the population.
Despite our share of sh*thole places in Canada, on the whole, we're much more educated about what's at stake and you're at a much higher chance of getting through this pandemic here than in the US.
Closed borders makes this much more than just a thought experiment.
sburns
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Sweden has had a interesting way of dealing with COVID-19..
www.euronews.com
Analysis: Is Sweden right in its handling of COVID-19?
Risky, reckless, an outlier... Sweden has been at the centre of much debate over the past few weeks. Our Political Editor, Darren McCaffrey, asks "Why has it not ruthlessly pursued lockdown like everyone else? Is it doing the right thing?"
www.euronews.com
True but it's still a better situation than having them sitting in their seats next to a dozen other people for a couple of hours. And for the jerks, knowing that they're going to be checked (and sent into quarantine if found out!) ought to be an incentive for not going to the event if there is any doubt about their condition.
It will not be possible to achieve perfection.
I think Sweden's model may be a viable example for "phase two" - with the understanding that the lockdown "phase one" that we are in now, has gotten some percentage of the population immune (reducing the severity of the next wave), and has gotten people used to taking the common-sense precautions - and identified where the weak spots are (long-term care, hospitals, etc).
Not as true for dry counties. There you gotta go over to some good ole boy's place, slip him a tenner and he'll give you a bottle of whatever he makes in his basement or woodshed.
bigpoppa
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and where did you get this?
The second wave of Spanish Flu was a mutation.
It's not guaranteed that the virus that causes COVID-19 will mutate.
It's not guaranteed that if the virus mutates, that it will be more virulent and more contagious.
Lots of ifs. Lots of speculation.
Very unlikely with this. A)life will not be normal for a very long time, you'll still have much of the population avoiding speaking moistly B) long-distance travel will be a small percentage of what it was during the initial spread C) A percentage will have had it so they should be less susceptible to both reinfection and spreading
C above assumes no mutation (reasonable but not guaranteed). A and B remain valid.
Also there's no ocean between us and them. Ground and air travel combos will get them home one way or another.
Record 93 Million U.S. Citizens Traveled Outside the Country in 2018
More Americans traveled outside the United States than ever before last year, spurred by a growing economy, favorable exchange rates, and high consumerskift.com
Almost 1/3 of their population (93 million) travelled out of country in 2018 which was the quickest result I could get with a quick Google search.
That's a very significant number. And that's just 1 year.
They like Canada because we drive on the same side of the road, use dollars and speak English. It lets them say they've been away but they still feel like they're at home.
The vaccine talk I hear says over a year away. The farm situation is in dire straights. They can't plant crops in August.
We need predictability and step one is seeing the growth curve matching our ability to cope.
Our tools are basically isolate, educate and medicate in some balance. If we can achieve that balance some predictability can arise but there will be collateral financial damage as people get back to work and play.
I can't see how we can ever get back to the level of prosperity we had. The alarm clock has gone off on the American dream.
ScorpionT16
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Things will be better than ever going forward, if people maintain a positive attitude, the body follows the mind.
As a millennial, I can tell you none of us care for the American dream and it was dead years ago. We don't want a house in the suburbs with a nice car, 9-5 job, happy wife and kids waiting for retirement paying a mortgage (Mortgage translates to bound till death). We're okay renting for life, not owning cars and using ubers, working multiple jobs over the years (I've had 3 new employers in a 6 year span, never had a steady job for more than 3 years before moving on, same with all my friends) etc... Learning new skills is easier than any other generation, and adapting to new fields easier, same with information, so what we're seeing is rapid change in a small period triggering uncertainty and sparking fear. Everyone on this forum is blessed to be in Canada and the opportunities we have now, and going forward.
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