RedDogDarren
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Because when the vehicles are modified it changes the variables.
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Can u smoke it? (W/P)
- Thread starter GentlemanRacer
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Because when the vehicles are modified it changes the variables.
mma01
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Most mildly modded bikes are going to be limited by the riders skill in launching it and will still be slower than the magazine time. For cars, a decent place to find out what a given car runs with various levels of mods is www.dragtimes.com
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DownUnder
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Ive seen people out there on their first time at a drag strip doing very low 11s on 600s. Experienced riders get into the low 10s. Also seen 1000s do mid 11s, the rider makes all the difference. Stock Busa's can run 9s so if someone is on a modded one doing that number I wouldnt call them a good rider.
From what ive seen here the street scene isnt as popular as it is in Aus. No matter where you go you'll see 5-6-700-1000hp cars driving around even in the smaller cities. Have a friend with an 800hp rotary on pump gas that runs high 8s (semislicks on track) and drives around town, another with a twin turbo 900hp HSV Holden (sold in North america as a G8 Pontiac). Its not uncommon to go for a drive on a friday, saturday night and see a couple hundred cars hanging out (fast/furious style) and if you knew our Hoon laws youd know how dedicated that is LOL
Getting a civic into the 10s wouldnt be impossible but it would take A LOT of cash and A LOT more then 400hp.
mma01
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Correct. But the rider is the weakpoint and unless you have actually practiced launching, its surprisingly hard to get close to what the magazine testers do. Based on my time slips, my 4 door grocery getter would outlaunch my R1 (and most other street bikes I have seen at tmp who aren't avid drag racers. I can pull a 1.7 60 ft on the car and have only gotten 1.9s on my first outing on the bike.
RedDogDarren
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I was 1.863 on my best ever run my 1st time at the strip. 11.005 at the end of the 1/4 on a bike that was supposed to do 10.5 ish. 92 GSXR1100. The 92 FZR1000 I had was a fair bit more powerful but the clutch basket limited the amount of launch I could give (massive lash that eventually caused it to grenade).
The hopped up TL1000S I took after that was ridiculous to launch, but SO much fun.
Griffin
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If you think you're going to smoke every car on the street with your 600 SS you have another think coming. Do some research. You'd be surprised at the ability of many sports cars to lay down their horsepower effectively.
You can blow away your average sedan and SUV and with a good rider give a good sports car a run for its money. But you may find yourself embarrassed thinking your $15k bike is going to blow the doors off that $90k sports car.
I'm absolutely amazed at the acceleration of a modern, good sports car.
You can blow away your average sedan and SUV and with a good rider give a good sports car a run for its money. But you may find yourself embarrassed thinking your $15k bike is going to blow the doors off that $90k sports car.
I'm absolutely amazed at the acceleration of a modern, good sports car.
padu
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we said but you don't need a 90k car to do so. Off the light is truff but a 600 gets beat most of the time. Now Highway pulls 1000s get worked sometimes. Ask me how I know. We have a couple bike killing cars in my circle of friends
padu
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Your comment about the civic is dead wrong. I know guys in the 10s all motor. You would be surprised how little money it takes compared to other cars. Every combo has been done in the civic world. It's as easy as ordering parts bolting them in cutting weight and a good tune. Not much rand d needed
2001 CBR F4i
0-60mph - 2.89s
0-100mph - 6.61s
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/articles/2010JanIndex.pdf
2013 Corvette 427 (505HP)
0-60mph - 3.6s
0-100mph - 8.3s
http://www.supercars.net/cars/5598.html
I know it is much easier to launch a car then a bike but with a good rider I don't know a stock car that would beat a 600SS in a 1/8th mile.
So it should hit the 8s without a rider. Impressive bike.
Thats is Crank HP.
Weight to Power is done with RWHP.
2008 Suzuki Hayabusa ........................................171.0 RWHP
2008 Suzuki Hayabusa ..........................................1HP : 3.37lbs
At the bottom of the link it says Best 0-60mph, top speeds and Power to weight.....
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/articles/2010JanIndex.pdf
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0-100 times mean very little what are the 1/4 mile and 1/8 mile times?
Not sure on the 1/8th but you would be going less then 100mph and the 1/4mile times are:
2001 CBR F4i
1/4 mile - 10.59
2013 Corvette 427 (505HP)
1/4 mile - 12s
There are some super cars out there stock that could beat a 600 in the 1/4 mile for sure though along with any type of rolling start.
I'm just saying the lightweight of a bike will take a heavy car off the line almost everytime with a good rider
Ah the tuner days... I used to have an eagle talon, I upgraded the turbo to a much larger one, intercooler, clutch, fuel system, exhaust, oil cooler.. etc.. changed the BOV, set the psi to 25lbs.. all wheel drive, dumping the clutch was always a fun thing to do.
That was a fun car.. I had the 7 bolt in there and it never broke! At the rear wheel with all that boost I had about 400-450 hp... but I always had to use very high octane or it would ping like crazy. I only ever did the q mile twice and the fastest I ever got her across the line was 11.97... I didn't make the car lighter though, I actually added heavy subs and other audio equipment in there. Never raced bikers though I did go well over the limit a few times before the street racing laws came into effect.
That was a fun car.. I had the 7 bolt in there and it never broke! At the rear wheel with all that boost I had about 400-450 hp... but I always had to use very high octane or it would ping like crazy. I only ever did the q mile twice and the fastest I ever got her across the line was 11.97... I didn't make the car lighter though, I actually added heavy subs and other audio equipment in there. Never raced bikers though I did go well over the limit a few times before the street racing laws came into effect.
Since you wouldn't deal with me for Stamkos ;-) I'll sweeten up another deal.
How's this for an offer?
I'll give you $100 for every 1/10th you're under 11.0 & you give me $100 for every 1/10th you run over 11.0.
i.e. If you run a 10.59 on a stock 2001 F4i, I'll give you $400 etc etc.
If you run 11.49, you give me $400 etc etc.
Opening day @ TMP, (when the air is never better for a quick pass).
Deal?
Since you wouldn't deal with me for Stamkos ;-) I'll sweeten up another deal.
How's this for an offer?
I'll give you $100 for every 1/10th you're under 11.0 & you give me $100 for every 1/10th you run over 11.0.
i.e. If you run a 10.59 on a stock 2001 F4i, I'll give you $400 etc etc.
If you run 11.49, you give me $400 etc etc.
Opening day @ TMP, (when the air is never better for a quick pass).
Deal?
Hahaha, I didn't say I can get those numbers, I was just pointing out the numbers that the pro who tested it got
PS. I'm taking you out in the playoffs for that Spezza, Injured Backstrom deal lol.
rmemedic
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First off, that 400 hp civic isn't in the 10s. That's an 11.5-12 sec car at best. FWD kills the launch.
People are lying to themselves by looking at these "numbers" from the magazines. In a 1/4 run, a Z06 will give any 600SS a hard run. It will launch harder, bike will catch it coming up through the gears, and near the top the vette will start to pull on the bike.
Despite what it might look like, bikes have higher air drag coefficients compared to cars, so sure we might beat them in lb/hp on paper, but throw in drag once you get moving you really lose the edge there too.
My fz6 might not be a SS but it's close enough, and I know for sure there are cars out there that will give it a dusting.
People are lying to themselves by looking at these "numbers" from the magazines. In a 1/4 run, a Z06 will give any 600SS a hard run. It will launch harder, bike will catch it coming up through the gears, and near the top the vette will start to pull on the bike.
Despite what it might look like, bikes have higher air drag coefficients compared to cars, so sure we might beat them in lb/hp on paper, but throw in drag once you get moving you really lose the edge there too.
My fz6 might not be a SS but it's close enough, and I know for sure there are cars out there that will give it a dusting.
Hahaha, I didn't say I can get those numbers, I was just pointing out the numbers that the pro who tested it got
PS. I'm taking you out in the playoffs for that Spezza, Injured Backstrom deal lol.
Damn - thought I had some easy cash coming my way ;-)
I was hoping you forgot about that trade
..... pm sent re the pool.
AGS
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I thought I was king of the street way back when on my '69 Bonneville, got a real surprise in the Welland canal tunnel from a 327 '57 Chev, all I saw was tail lights
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