Buy Canadian (not American)-Buy this not that!

Leon’s Furniture typically buys Canadian furniture but, does have Chinese stuff. Most Canadian furniture is made in Quebec.

Kingsdown beds are made in Canada and Canadian company.


Ashley Furniture is American.
Not entirely true, Ontario has a very robust furniture manufacturing base.

Upholstered furniture brands including Ontario manufacturers Decor-Rest (Ontario's largest), Trendline (owned by Deco-Rest), Superstyle (owned by Decor-rest), DHU and Paiano can be found at retailers. Quebec's largest, Elran can also be found.

Mattresses that are being made in Canada include Endy, Ghostbed, Silk & Snow, Simmons/Sealy, Kingsdown, Casper, Dreamstar, etc. There are a number of Canadian independent mattress manufacturers making private brands for companies like Costco and Sleep Country.

Sklar Pepplar was a Canadian institution but is now being made in the US by Alan White.

Case goods (tables, et al) are predominantly imported from offshore manufacturers.

Office seating manufacturers like Global Upholstery, Keilhauer, Teknion, Allseating, ergoCentric, and Horizon Furniture, are all Ontario made brands while Artopex, Tec Innovations, ADI, Bouty and Groupe Lacasse are Quebec based.

Many of the components, like foam and frames used to manufacture are also Canadian made while some is imported from offshore.

We have furniture covered in a big way.
 
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I’m sure orange ******* believes this will spur homegrown American manufacturing and industry but he’s kind of forgetting one thing. You can’t magic up an aluminum mine if you don’t have one and it takes years for some other industry to come online.

First, there has to be a facility already running. No one is going to start up a shoe company or a dining table company when the associated costs are in the millions or hundreds of millions. And if they did, or they were subsidized to, it doesn't happen quickly. Then there is sourcing all the raw materials.

By the time importers can justify and qualify local manufacturers the orange idiot will be gone (and I am gonna say it - hopefully suffer a "fatal medical emergency").

In the meantime, shrewd importers will try to use it as leverage against Canadian suppliers. If exports had 25% in contribution margins to give up then they probably weren't the best partners but this is very unlikely so there will be a bit of short term struggle until importers are exhausted by the effort required to onboard a new partner and just pony up.

Our dollar will suffer and this will only help offset some of the tariffs as well. They only ones that are going to pay are the consumers.

So let's say there is a manufacturing boom in the US. Who is going to work there? Oh...dare we say immigration needs to happen?
 
So it’s on. Starts today, implementation on Tuesday.

25% on everything from Canada
10% on oil and energy

Good luck to us all.

 

So this means mass layoffs for manufacturing industries over the next 6 months?

It is going to be ugly, and I wouldn't exclude the possibility of a worldwide recession, if not a depression, due to this. Nobody wins trade wars. When the USA did something like this in 1930, it made the Great Depression worse, and last longer.


 
He gonna implode his own country and left with the ashes of what’s left. It’s gonna hurt us but, we can work around it.

We are just gonna end up with stronger trade relationships with the EU to avoid the US. Maybe we can’t for everything but, the convenience of location won’t prevent us getting things from other nations. Likely cheaper. At least less than the tariffs being imposed.
 
So, for literally no apparent reason we’re likely to be the target of tariffs by the orange idiot.

Let’s start a list of things that you can substitute for American products. It won’t do a lot but if enough people avoid American products while the ignoramus keeps the policies in place then perhaps exporters in the US will start to make a stink and the giant brain might change his adderall damaged mind.

First things first, French’s Ketchup is still made by an American owned company even though it’s made in Canada from Canadian produce. Compliments brand is Canadian owned though from Canadian tomatoes.

Booze-this is a big one as the LCBO has massive purchasing power and is one of the worlds largest purchasers of alcohol. There’s a lot of home grown products that can compete. We may not have bourbons but we own ryes. Our beer is arguably better anyway.

Rona is Canadian, Home Depot is American.

Substituting products from partners that may also be the target of nonsensical tariffs is also a good idea. So French wine instead of Californian etc.

Any others?

He gonna implode his own country and left with the ashes of what’s left. It’s gonna hurt us but, we can work around it.

We are just gonna end up with stronger trade relationships with the EU to avoid the US. Maybe we can’t for everything but, the convenience of location won’t prevent us getting things from other nations. Likely cheaper. At least less than the tariffs being imposed.
Trump gonna win this fight, our leaders and country are to dumb and weak!
 
How will this effect Harley Davidson in Canada?
 
I don't participate in the politics game much, but holy hell what's happening tonight is bad. Really, really bad. Anyone sleepwalking through this, ignoring it and hoping it goes away, or just not paying attention, well, it's going to come knocking on your door sooner or later.

Here's hoping it only lasts a few days. Hitting back hard enough and fast enough to bloody Trumps nose and create legitimate outrage in the USA that makes him blink will be key here. But given he's so drunk on apparently unreigned power right now, who knows if he even cares anymore, he seems to have moved into a scorched earth process detached from any guardrails or reality. And he's surrounded by people who are not going to do anything except make him dig in his heels any more.

As for buying Canadian, I've already started. Went to Canadian Tire today to buy wood pellets for our smoker and some of the special ice melter that doesn't harm brickwork - found made in Canada options for both. Went to the grocery store and found every single thing I needed without buying a single made in USA product - 95% made in Canada, 5% overseas - Basmati rice for example, not exactly produced here, but wasn't from the USA either.

Either way, didn't spend a penny on any USA product.

It's sad to see this long lasting relationship come to such an unnecessary and destructive end.

We can only hope they blink.

Watching the Premieres across the country seemingly start to come together (yeah, even Alberta seems to be waking up) has been hopeful.

Seeing Legault from Quebec standing speaking english and speaking in a united Canadian fashion was an eye opener about how serious this is. When Alberta and Quebec start to come together you know **** is getting real.

Monday is going to be a real mess. I expect 50% of my companies workforce to be laid off before the end of the week, Stock markets are not going to take this well. Oil prices and our dollar will be all over the map. It's not going to be pretty unless the USA blinks, or this turns into just another Trump bluff and he calls it off Monday night. But a lot of damage will already have been done.
 
Horrible outcome, absoluutely. Next week is going to be a **** show on the level that many don't seem to be comprehending. As someone who works in industry, I get it - the effects already started last week - freight volumes fell on their face in the upcoming fear of what might happen.

And now it has.

When the freight industry gets a cold, it's because every business on both sides of the border had the sniffles. We see the effects before anyone else. They're happening already. They will go nuclear starting next week now that the "what might happen" becomes the "what did happen".

It's going to be a bad.

But we gotta do something to respond otherwise we're just letting the bully hit us without ever fighting back..

Lets see if Trumps claim that he would escalate if we dared retaliate ( :rolleyes: ) is actually serious or not. And if it was, and he jacks the tariffs to 35% or something, if we respond promptly in kind. There will be a point where they will crash not only our economy, but their own. The question now is if Trump cares anymore, or is just going scorched earth.
 
Watching the Premieres across the country seemingly start to come together (yeah, even Alberta seems to be waking up) has been hopeful.

Seeing Legault from Quebec standing speaking english and speaking in a united Canadian fashion was an eye opener about how serious this is. When Alberta and Quebec start to come together you know **** is getting real.

Nothing unites like a common enemy.
 
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