Bus Monitor in tears due to some 12 yr old punks .. ( gone viral)

[EngineerJoe]

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Parental punishments live with you forever. I'm thirty and to this day I never give my back up to my mother. If she does get behind me I tense up wating for that smack to the back of the head, even if I have done nothing. I never got a real beating as a kid ( and I mean a REAL beating) but what I got I probably deserved and it is more then likely shaped the way I conduct myself to this day.
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I'm a bit older than you and until this day I STILL won't swear around my dad.

You should need to take a course and get a license to breed.

If I wanted government controlled offspring, I'd move to China.

Could not watch more than 20 seconds of that, absolutely disgusting. WOW

I'm in the same boat... I was sick to my stomach. Part of me really wanted to hug the bus monitor.

 

[IV.]

I do believe their is a BIG STOP BULLYING campaign occurring now in the schools and on tv via shows and advertising.
Clearly I think it is not working. I did not see or hear of any other kid or group of kids coming to this lady's rescue. They all just sat there.

Kids today do NOT have a healthy fear of adults. They also do NOT have respect for senior citizens either.

What amazes me today is that parents suffer from the "it's not my little Johnny/Susie" syndrome.
They would never do a thing like that.

In previous generations even in older movies you would see the father/mother say if I ever catch you doing or being part of X be prepared for a good "beating". Parents used to say things like don't bring shame to you or us, don't ever have the Police come to my door for something stupid you did.

Kids are doped up on sugar/caffeine/carbs/prescription drugs etc...

The tv shows today are just unreal. Do you think shows such as Little House on the Prairie or Leave it to Beaver type shows can make it on tv today. Is there even a show such as the Cosby show on tv today. There were numerous episodes when the kids would respond if I do that my dad/mom is going to kill me.

I watched few episodes of the tv show Bubble Wrap Kids. If you want to see just warped parents can be, watch that show for a few minutes. I leaves me thinking what is wrong with those people and are they for real.

We have become soft.

 

[nobbie48]

I believe in corporal punishment but not beating in anger. If the physical impact leaves welts, bruises etc it was over the top. As the child matures and becomes capable of understanding something is wrong if they need to be hit. Hitting a 12 YO is just going to create an adversarial situation.
If you choose to control your kid verbally I hope it isn't a negative tirade that makes them feel like crap for the rest of their life.

 

[IV.]

I believe in corporal punishment but not beating in anger. If the physical impact leaves welts, bruises etc it was over the top. As the child matures and becomes capable of understanding something is wrong if they need to be hit. Hitting a 12 YO is just going to create an adversarial situation.
If you choose to control your kid verbally I hope it isn't a negative tirade that makes them feel like crap for the rest of their life.

Your post triggered a thought.
In Nature when a young animal does something wrong or is not following the community rules they get swatted or charged at. In some cases they are killed. The scenario that comes to mind are lions and their young. I think primates also have a similar structure.

 

[nobbie48]

Your post triggered a thought.
In Nature when a young animal does something wrong or is not following the community rules they get swatted or charged at. In some cases they are killed. The scenario that comes to mind are lions and their young. I think primates also have a similar structure.

If they endanger the herd they don't last long. Someone wrote about cats and if a cat didn't bury its crap it was an abberation to the species and should be destroyed. Drop a tiny kitten into a litter box and it knows what to do.

Does that mean if corporal punishment doesn't work we switch to capital punishment?

 

[RockerGuy]

Your post triggered a thought.
In Nature when a young animal does something wrong or is not following the community rules they get swatted or charged at. In some cases they are killed. The scenario that comes to mind are lions and their young. I think primates also have a similar structure.

Our gene pool will be polluted with crap while other species will advance. A la Planet of the Apes

 

[rafiki911]

wtf just watched the whole thing. Those kids are sick and their parents deserve a beating for raising such pieces of ****.

As kids our parents taught us to be respectful of our elders and be polite. Still can't believe how messed up those kids are.

 

[Cat13]

As sad as it it's you're probably right. It's not the kids that are the problem - it's the parents. I have never had to hit my children to discipline them they are generally well behaved and respectful. They also know I will take a slipper / belt / whatever to their ***** if I so choose.
When I was married to my Ex she had a problem with corporal punishment and didn't agree with it. I made it very clear to her and the kids that she doesn't have to agree with it for me to decide it necessary. Last thing I wanted was for the kids to think they could hide behind mommy.

I totally believe a child's behaviour is a response to how the parents raised them. Granted 12 year old's should know better, but the parents ****ed up and therefore they don't. So the kids deserve punishment but the parents do as well.

My mom didn't believe in corporal punishment either, my dad did though. Only ever got spanked once. And that was cus I didn't want to go to bed and I didn't believe he would do it. He calmly sat down called me over smacked me once and said if I continued to challenge him he would do more. Needless to say I learned his boundaries and never crossed them again.

There was a punch a kid in the face comment earlier in the thread (I'm too lazy to quote it).
I think there's a big difference between lashing out in anger and corporal punishment. Lashing out in anger teaches children that it's ok to hit when had. Using it as a punishment when calm is just that ... a punishment.
Part of the reason telling a child t go pick out the stick is effective is because by that point the parent has had a change to calm down and any physical punishment is not done in anger ... the other reason being that the kids gets to think about what's coming.

Point being corporal punishment isn't smacking a kid when mad, it's a thought out punishment done when calm. When done in anger it leads to stupid laws like in the UK about spanking kids.

Agreed! Its more of an impact when you get hit and your parent is crying or is upset because they have to hit you, vs when they are so angry and hit you. That's also the difference between a caring loving parent and one who lets their anger rule them.

Soldiers get paid for their job... Getting injured is part of the risk of that job. Not sure what soldiers have anything to do with this anyway. I am sure there are 100 different ways to spend that money approrpriately, but that's not the reason it was donated for.

Salary vs medical bills..... They don't make enough to cover the med expenses. I'm from a military family, I see the expenses my grandfather has to pay due to stuff he got while serving and also my dad. Your career ends so does your salary (pension is small btw). Expenses keep going until you die.

 

[Freestyle72]

Salary vs medical bills..... They don't make enough to cover the med expenses. I'm from a military family, I see the expenses my grandfather has to pay due to stuff he got while serving and also my dad. Your career ends so does your salary (pension is small btw). Expenses keep going until you die.

Salary vs medical bills..... They don't make enough to cover the med expenses. I'm from a military family, I see the expenses my grandfather has to pay due to stuff he got while serving and also my dad. Your career ends so does your salary (pension is small btw). Expenses keep going until you die.

What kind of stuff did he and your dad get "due to serving"?
The way I see military jobs, they are exactly like any other civilian job. You take the job, you accept the risks, and you perform as required. There are many civilian jobs that are tough on the body and health as well. You get old, you get sick, that's life. It happens to military vets it happens to civilians too. I don't see where the sense of entitlement comes from with people from the military.

I understand and appreciate the aspect of "serving the country" but to be quite honest I think that kind of thinking was more applicable in the days of conscription. Now that everything is a voluntary basis I feel a military job is quite similar to almost any other job, it's just that the employer is a different and their pensions/benefits really are better than average.

 

[Cat13]

What kind of stuff did he and your dad get "due to serving"?
The way I see military jobs, they are exactly like any other civilian job. You take the job, you accept the risks, and you perform as required. There are many civilian jobs that are tough on the body and health as well. You get old, you get sick, that's life. It happens to military vets it happens to civilians too. I don't see where the sense of entitlement comes from with people from the military.

I understand and appreciate the aspect of "serving the country" but to be quite honest I think that kind of thinking was more applicable in the days of conscription. Now that everything is a voluntary basis I feel a military job is quite similar to almost any other job, it's just that the employer is a different and their pensions/benefits really are better than average.

Honestly another topic for another time. If you really want to know bring it to PM. Otherwise back on topic.

 

[nesobriquet]

Honestly another topic for another time. If you really want to know bring it to PM. Otherwise back on topic.

This was a far more diplomatic response than what I was gonna muster up. Well done.

 

[Cat13]

This was a far more diplomatic response than what I was gonna muster up. Well done.

Thank you

 

[Venom01]

So 4 kids that were identified in the video have been suspendedfor one whole school year. So now they get a year off too. I think that move was to get under the parents skin more then the children.


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[afong56]

So 4 kids that were identified in the video have been suspendedfor one whole school year. So now they get a year off too. I think that move was to get under the parents skin more then the children.


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well, to be absolutely accurate, they are suspended from THAT school for one year. state law requires minors to receive an education, and that means they will be shunted to a diversion-type program for troublesome kids--so they'll get a socialization with more hardened kids for a year and then get plopped back into the regular stream in time for highschool, lol. . .

 

[nobbie48]

Has she received the cash yet? Just wondering.

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