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Bobs Lake boat crash.

What does it cost to insure a 25' pickle fork with a 275hp motor?
I have no idea. Friends with similar hp bass boats don't complain much about insurance prices. Boats seemed to be priced more like dirt bikes than street bikes. Almost token sums relative to the values involved.
 
If you have no claims, and a house… maybe $300/year. Just boat ins, $ 750/yr
 
Boat ins is surprisingly cheap . We had an older hydroplane left over from the Labbatts Goldcup series, it would do about 65-70, which felt rocket speed but an antique. Ins was about $300 for it as part of a bundle that included a pontoon and a fishing tub. Oddly my current sailboat is $355 a year and that includes race insurance coverage , hit another boat and its covered. But I cant operate the boat outside of the Great Lakes without additional ins.
 
I’d think just taking the cotter pin out would be a good start . Then take odds on how long before it releases the prop. Good drinking game next day .


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Not sure who was charged or for what.. announcement later this am.
Here's hoping it's a big hammer. Every lake has at least one of those dbags that puts their fun above all others safety or enjoyment. A court case where the dbag goes to jail for significant time may make some of them grow up and behave like adults.
 
Here's hoping it's a big hammer. Every lake has at least one of those dbags that puts their fun above all others safety or enjoyment. A court case where the dbag goes to jail for significant time may make some of them grow up and behave like adults.
Wishful thinking.

We already have laws for stupid dbags and criminals where they end up in jail.
Has that detected anyone from being a dbag or criminal?
 
Wishful thinking.

We already have laws for stupid dbags and criminals where they end up in jail.
Has that detected anyone from being a dbag or criminal?
Maybe. Most people are still concerned about their first criminal conviction as that can change your life. Once you have one conviction though, many people just don't care anymore as subsequent convictions mean little.
 
Matthew Splinter, 44, charged with dangerous causing death, dangerous causing harm, impaired causing death and impaired causing harm, all x3. I would have thrown in some speed charges too just because. F that guy. Make him pay for the lawyers to try to prove that he was under 10mph while jumping another boat and dock. Charges were under criminal code not shipping act (IIRC o'leary crash went with shipping act charges).
 
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Matthew Splinter, 44, charged with dangerous causing death, dangerous causing harm, impaired causing death and impaired causing harm, all x3. I would have thrown in some speed charges too just because. F that guy. Make him pay for the lawyers to try to prove that he was under 10mph while jumping another boat and dock. Charges were under criminal code not shipping act (IIRC o'leary crash went with shipping act charges).
He should also never be allowed to step a foot into a boat ever again. Just because
 
He should also never be allowed to step a foot into a boat ever again. Just because
I don't even know if that's an option. I guess they could revoke his boaters license? I'd be ok with a permanent revocation of his drivers license. He obviously makes poor choices and is an *&^hole. I'd be happy not to have him on the road where he may kill me.

For those in the Kingston area, I would not be hiring Splinter Excavating for anything.
 
Here's hoping it's a big hammer. Every lake has at least one of those dbags that puts their fun above all others safety or enjoyment. A court case where the dbag goes to jail for significant time may make some of them grow up and behave like adults.
While I agree in principle the fact is that most crashes and injuries of any sort are the result of people not thinking it would happen to them.

Even in minor events, after you cut your finger for example, why were you doing the procedure that particular way?

The possibility of injury was foreseeable so why didn't you work more safely?

There is a risk / reward component and zero risk (Hide under the bed) means paranoia to the nth degree. What is a prudent acceptable spot on the risk / reward slope?

IMO dressing your two year old in ATGATT to go to the playground is unrealistic. So is running a 275 HP powerboat in a public space while under the influence. It's just different ends of the same scale.
 
IMO dressing your two year old in ATGATT to go to the playground is unrealistic. So is running a 275 HP powerboat in a public space while under the influence. It's just different ends of the same scale.
I have no issue with the boat. Like pitbulls, it's the owners that are the problem. 60 mph while under the influence, in the dark, close to shore and in a 10 mph zone is way out at the bleeding edge of the bad choice continuum.
 
At least the guy has something for the victims and families to go after civilly.
In an interesting twist, even if his business is incorporated, they should be able to go after it. Corporate veil doesn't protect in that direction. It would be a good day if he was never able to own anything again in his life.
 
I don't even know if that's an option. I guess they could revoke his boaters license?

Meh, he could just go rent something, no licence required. It's an absolutely insane loophole.

This was a boat we rented in the 90's which I spent a week running up and down the trent with a bunch of friends.

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Almost 60 feet long and it had to be at least a 15' beam, Single Volvo Penta sterndrive with maybe 150hp. All steel and weighed eleventy thousand pounds. It was a bear. At least I grew up with boats and had some skills, but anyone who has ever spent any time on the Trent and had the pleasure of sharing any tight spaces with a rental houseboat, or a rental pontoon, or really, a rental boat of any sort knows what goes on. And yeah, no licence required (and rental boats still to this day don't require a licence) and the "training" consisted of about 2 minutes explaining how to start the engine and what the different levers and buttons did.
 
Meh, he could just go rent something, no licence required. It's an absolutely insane loophole.

This was a boat we rented in the 90's which I spent a week running up and down the trent with a bunch of friends.

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Almost 60 feet long and it had to be at least a 15' beam, Single Volvo Penta sterndrive with maybe 150hp. All steel and weighed eleventy thousand pounds. It was a bear. At least I grew up with boats and had some skills, but anyone who has ever spent any time on the Trent and had the pleasure of sharing any tight spaces with a rental houseboat, or a rental pontoon, or really, a rental boat of any sort knows what goes on. And yeah, no licence required (and rental boats still to this day don't require a licence) and the "training" consisted of about 2 minutes explaining how to start the engine and what the different levers and buttons did.
When your drivers licence is under driving prohibition you can’t drive a riding mower in your back yard. Chances are he sees at least 10year prohibition.

No loopholes - no boats, cars, tractors, construction equipment, mopeds, cars only the blind eye thrown ad DUI e-bikes.
 

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