Bobs Lake boat crash.

When your drivers licence is under driving prohibition you can’t drive a riding mower in your back yard. Chances are he sees at least 10year prohibition.

No loopholes - no boats, cars, tractors, construction equipment, mopeds, cars only the blind eye thrown ad DUI e-bikes.

Be careful mixing criminal code and Ontario HTA when it comes to boats though.

If your DUI is in a car and your suspension is strictly limited to cars, you are not automatically prohibited from driving a boat according to several sources I’ve found online.

Not saying all this applies to the case at hand, this guy will indeed perhaps be specifically restricted from boats given the situation, but clarifying the situation at large - a car DUI that doesn’t result in a specific suspension of one’s boating licence as well apparently doesn’t subsequently restrict one’s ability to captain a boat. Although getting a DUi on a boat can work in reverse and cause your DL to be suspended.

(In no way as part of this debate am I condoning DUI or drinking and boating, just debating is all…)
 
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It’s the reversal I find interesting, DUI on boat = car , DUI in car , enjoy the boat .




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In an interesting twist, even if his business is incorporated, they should be able to go after it. Corporate veil doesn't protect in that direction. It would be a good day if he was never able to own anything again in his life.
If he owns the business it is an asset and can be taken, along with his house and cottage to pay the judgement. However if the boat was registered to the business and operated by the guy as an employee(Unlikly) the business would be up for grabs but not his house, RRSPs

The value of the business is dependent on how much the business owns vs leases. If financed by a line of credit there won't be much cash. Receivables might get grabbed by the bank and government under the first dibs clauses. Goodwill might have crashed with the boat.

The sickening part is that the living victims (Family and friends of those killed) will likely have to endure years of hearings and trials with no forecast of results. They will need deep pockets to pursue judgments and there will be no joy in any outcome.

IMO a better outcome would be three ten year sentences for manslaughter served consecutively. See you in 2054.
 
Be careful mixing criminal code and Ontario HTA when it comes to boats though.

If your DUI is in a car and your suspension is strictly limited to cars, you are not automatically prohibited from driving a boat according to several sources I’ve found online.

Not saying all this applies to the case at hand, this guy will indeed perhaps be specifically restricted from boats given the situation, but clarifying the situation at large - a car DUI that doesn’t result in a specific suspension of one’s boating licence as well apparently doesn’t subsequently restrict one’s ability to captain a boat. Although getting a DUi on a boat can work in reverse and cause your DL to be suspended.

(In no way as part of this debate am I condoning DUI or drinking and boating, just debating is all…)
A driving prohibition means you cannot drive a motor vehicle (ICE or electric-powered) anywhere in Canada. This includes driving cars, motorcycles, and trucks, it also includes boats, aircraft, heavy equipment, and riding a motorized scooter. You definitely cannot drive a boat if you 're under a criminal driving prohibition for impaired driving.

Your article refers to an HTA license suspension (prohibition) -- that's different than a criminal driving prohibition. A provincial driver's license suspension restricts to things covered by your driver's license. You cannot drive cars, trucks, motorcycles, snowmobiles or ATVs anywhere but private property. You can operate boats, ATVS and Snowmobiles on lakes and rivers but not on roads, trails, or crown lands.
 

They charged the operator of the other boat.
My understanding was it was at a dock when hit. I saw the new charges but it wasn't clear who got them. Part of me wondered if it was a cottage helping with the search after that didn't turn on their lights.
 
My understanding was it was at a dock when hit. I saw the new charges but it wasn't clear who got them. Part of me wondered if it was a cottage helping with the search after that didn't turn on their lights.

I doubt they would charge someone for that while they were attempting to rescue people... especially if the rescuing boat didn't cause any harm while doing it.
 

"Dakota Fillion, who was on board the fishing boat when it was involved in a collision with Matthew Splinter’s speedboat on May 18, has been charged for allegedly failing to display the vessel’s lights and for not having enough lifejackets on board."
 
So guy two that’s charged , wrong place wrong time . I’ve mentioned several times when guys have driven home from somewhere when they are “ close “ to over . Get rear ended by some goof , the you get rear ended again when officer Bob shows up


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So guy two that’s charged , wrong place wrong time . I’ve mentioned several times when guys have driven home from somewhere when they are “ close “ to over . Get rear ended by some goof , the you get rear ended again when officer Bob shows up

I don't know about wrong place and time. If he had his lights on, maybe the other guy might have seen them before it was too late, drunk or not? Maybe.
 
Are you required to have the boat's lights on when the boat is parked at the dock? Or am I understanding this wrong?
 
Are you required to have the boat's lights on when the boat is parked at the dock? Or am I understanding this wrong?
My understanding was boat was moored and therefore no lights would be required. Based on charges, boat was underway and therefore both anchor and bow lights were required.
 
Are you required to have the boat's lights on when the boat is parked at the dock? Or am I understanding this wrong?

I don't think the fishing boat was docked when it was hit. I'm basing this off Tony Hammond's witness account.. and seeing the video of the OPP divers and where they were diving... away from shore.

"That’s where he was when he said he saw a group of young people listening to music onboard a boat, which wasn’t far from its dock, when he heard another boat approaching."

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/audio/9.4232703
listen to Tony talking about it..
 
At the speed boat one was estimated to hit boat two , it could have pushed it a ways from where it was sitting at impact . Turning off lights for a great view of the stars is a very common cottage thing . It also makes you nearly in invisible if it’s dark on the water .


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