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crankcall said:
It wouldn’t take much , couple warmer days and the snow gets heavy in some places , near Sequin anyone that had a temporary car shelter now has a pancake .
Those boats over water will be a complete pain in the arse to move/ fix/ relocate . Most will probably loose this season .


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1) Make the site safe for workers, easier said than done over water.

2) Clear debris

3) Make sure hulls are seaworthy so they can be floated and towed to local repair facilities in spring. Or can they be shipped back to the manufacturer for a new deck? Considering how modern boats are made, the process will not be like rebuilding a wood boat.

Manufacturers may not have the ability to merge repairs with ongoing production.

Catch 22. The marina we were at used the roof structures to winch the boats up and down. If that structure is compromised, do they have to have to fix the roof supports first while working over the damaged boats? Crane access??

Assuming a lot of deck damage and repairs, that's what the skipper sees all the time when at the helm. A bunch of Canadian Tire fiberglass kits isn't going to turn skipper on.

Correction: Step 1 is to build a clubhouse for the lawyers.

Snow load: If there's 2 feet of light snow on a roof it's about 8 pounds per square foot. If half of it melts the same mass of water exists in a different form but if it drains to a low spot, it could create a point load. Add a wind or shift in a footing and down it comes.
 
Eventually they will bring in a couple cranes and start using slings to remove the structures , then sling the boats into trailers if they have one , or onto blocks in the parking lot . Much like a Florida hurricane clear out . Then comes the second problem , if the boat is out of production ( most of them) parts will be a huge problem. And there is a shortage of repair facilities ( and talent) for big jobs . Repair work is stupidly expensive right now , because good shops are Turing away work , they can pick the jobs they want.


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crankcall said:
Eventually they will bring in a couple cranes and start using slings to remove the structures , then sling the boats into trailers if they have one , or onto blocks in the parking lot . Much like a Florida hurricane clear out . Then comes the second problem , if the boat is out of production ( most of them) parts will be a huge problem. And there is a shortage of repair facilities ( and talent) for big jobs . Repair work is stupidly expensive right now , because good shops are Turing away work , they can pick the jobs they want.


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Make work project for starport shop? Collect insurance payout on the boathouses and have all the OT you can handle for the shop for the entire season. A lot of the boats are big enough that moving them over the road is a very expensive relocation.
 
GreyGhost said:
Make work project for starport shop? Collect insurance payout on the boathouses and have all the OT you can handle for the shop for the entire season. A lot of the boats are big enough that moving them over the road is a very expensive relocation.
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Size is the curse. A towable fishing boat can be built or rebuilt in a single car garage. A 12 foot beam and 15 foot overhead clearance needs a massive shop. Low bridges and overhead wires complicate the move. Working outside sucks with temperature, precipitation and security.

I don't know if there are opportunities for small operations with a quasit hut to do a restoration and resell. Fiberglass isn't necessarily high tech, just labour intensive.

Hopefully some boats will only need radar arches and tops.
 
Probably lots of bent stainless and tubing , which is sure better than cracked fiberglass. Glass work is such a dirty business . Lots of opportunity for car trunk repair guys but if the yard and tenants are environmentally sensitive, good luck. One Karen with a phone and your cooked .


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I’ll bet they send a bunch of these to Copart. Dealing with owners is a hassle for insurers, they’d rather sell the boat at auction and fund the difference to FMV.

Fixing boats is expensive - insurers pickup damage costs, deferred maintenance/repair costs, and owners are expecting a 15 year old scow to be restored to like-new condition.
 
crankcall said:
Probably lots of bent stainless and tubing , which is sure better than cracked fiberglass. Glass work is such a dirty business . Lots of opportunity for car trunk repair guys but if the yard and tenants are environmentally sensitive, good luck. One Karen with a phone and your cooked .


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I'm thinking lots of hurt electronics too. Lots of money on top of the radar arches and that is the first point of contact as the roof comes down. That number can get big fast.
 
crankcall said:
Probably lots of bent stainless and tubing , which is sure better than cracked fiberglass. Glass work is such a dirty business . Lots of opportunity for car trunk repair guys but if the yard and tenants are environmentally sensitive, good luck. One Karen with a phone and your cooked .


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There used to be a bunch of amateurs working on stuff at the marine terminal in Port Credit. Then I think an underwriter walked through seeing millions upon millions of dollars in yachts with an inaccessible work spot in the middle. The sight of solvents, chemicals, rags and sparky tools probably gave him a heart attack.

Buildings that could handle anything large are rare. The length isn't the problem. It's the 16 foot by 16 foot door to accommodate the beam and bridge clearance.
 
No idea how fancy those boats might be . But costs will add up fast , especially when it’s an insurance job . You might think that bend antenna will be ok and that scratched radar dome is ok , but the contractor will have that in the quote .
@nobbie , I remember the yard of hillbillies in Port Credit , they still exist but they have a co op yard up a side street off Royal Windsor. What a toxic footprint that place must have .
There are a few facilities still around that will take in a big boat , Wiggers is pretty much shut and Bristol is gone , but Macrea has filled the void , Brukkman could put eight at once in his shop , couple big shops in the Collingwood and Wiarton area . Not sure in the big shop over in Cobiconk is still there . Shop space isn’t the problem, anywhere a tractor trailer fits works , it’s guys to do the work .


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crankcall said:
Eventually they will bring in a couple cranes and start using slings to remove the structures , then sling the boats into trailers if they have one , or onto blocks in the parking lot . Much like a Florida hurricane clear out . Then comes the second problem , if the boat is out of production ( most of them) parts will be a huge problem. And there is a shortage of repair facilities ( and talent) for big jobs . Repair work is stupidly expensive right now , because good shops are Turing away work , they can pick the jobs they want.


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Here's one of the victims. A nice vintage chriscraft heading for the scrap heap.
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The Facebook comments are horrible , so many dooshbags in there .
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I'd love to find out how many of those same dbags saying "it's just a bunch of wood" own classic cars or motorcycles or a sportscar or whatever, and then go and comment on their photos "it's just a bunch of stupid metal bent into shapes, why are you so excited about it?"

Sometimes I wish social media had never become a thing....it's become a scourge to humanity.
 
The relative anonimity of facebook , and its global position means you may never "really" know who some of the idiots are. Many in this forum have met and are known to others so there is less truly offensive things thrown.
And often some people posting think they are saying something funny , but it doesnt always go as planned. Add in the bitter pricks that can no longer ride/sail/ski whatever , so they need to crap on someone elses picnic.
We've all met that guy that has to have the last word, even when wrong. Its a risk in social media .
 
PrivatePilot said:
I'd love to find out how many of those same dbags saying "it's just a bunch of wood" own classic cars or motorcycles or a sportscar or whatever, and then go and comment on their photos "it's just a bunch of stupid metal bent into shapes, why are you so excited about it?"

Sometimes I wish social media had never become a thing....it's become a scourge to humanity.
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If anyone wonders why sales ads here are closed to comments, this is why.

Wooden boats and their restorations aren't a lot different from restoring motorcycles and cars. It is usually only of benefit to the person being paid to restore the vehicle. Money calls the shots, not emotions. Insurers have no emotions and are stingy with the money.

Many decades ago, I saw a lovely mahogany 32-foot Chris Craft for sale in deplorable condition. It was dirt cheap, but the deal was the selling marina, around Brechin IIRC, had to get the restoration contract.

$5,000 for the boat

$20,000 would get it to float

$30,000 more to keep rain and birds out

$20,000 more to make it look nice

$10,000 for interior

$20,000 more to make it reliable

Basically over $100,000 to get a boat that would sell for a third the amount a year later.

Throw in another $20 to 30k if trophies were desired.

The curse of restoring a boat is finding additional problems as work progresses. Replanking the bottom only to find rotten spots in frames. It doesn't make sense to put a good bottom over bad frames so add to the tab. Does that mean motor R&R?
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