killerkeith
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And you don't think Apple or Samsung would pay off major carriers for false delays? Business is pretty cut throat.
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And you don't think Apple or Samsung would pay off major carriers for false delays? Business is pretty cut throat.
Agreed, shame on Google, Nexus 4 launched Nov 13/2012. STILL can't get my hands on one.
A flagship phone from a high profile gargantuan company with piles of money, influence, and power? Indeed a joke.
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Ok, I'm hooked. This is the first real demo I've seen of the Q10.
I love my current Qwerty board, but kept trying to convince myself the all touch is the way to go.
This vid convinces me that I'm going to Qwerty phone over the all touch, what a beauty. The only thing I'd miss is the bigger screen of the Z10, but bridging to the PB as I currently do anyways, would solve this.
By the time RIM launches this in April, Im sure they'll have a further refined OS as well.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/31/video-quick-look-at-the-blackberry-q10/
[video=youtube;ZUqKVzOoMXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUqKVzOoMXY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
I love my current Qwerty board, but kept trying to convince myself the all touch is the way to go.
This vid convinces me that I'm going to Qwerty phone over the all touch, what a beauty. The only thing I'd miss is the bigger screen of the Z10, but bridging to the PB as I currently do anyways, would solve this.
By the time RIM launches this in April, Im sure they'll have a further refined OS as well.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/31/video-quick-look-at-the-blackberry-q10/
[video=youtube;ZUqKVzOoMXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUqKVzOoMXY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
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I'm still debating between the two, but I don't want to wait.. so i'll grab a z10 on Tuesday, most are saying after a week of use the keyboard won't be missed.. if for whatever reason I don't agree by the time the q10 launches I'll pass the z10 to my wife and get that too, she's a torch users now and never even slides it open, so I know she'll love it.
killerkeith
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I hear ya Luc.
The phone's #1 job for me is email. I barely use my Torch's touch screen because it frustrates me to no end not being able to type fast, but with the keyboard I can do email all day long on it. I'm going to have to try one in the store before committing to the Z10.
yea, I can easily send/receive 300 emails in a day.. it needs to be top notch in that regard.. but I'm hearing the touch keyboard is really that good.. and the predictive/word flicking is actually faster for one handed typing them a physical keyboard.. so we'll see. Unfortunately I don't know if playing with one in store will do the trick though, with the way it learns as you type, and scans your emails from your dialect it's supposed to take a week of use for it to fully optimize. I'm lucky in the sense that I know I can pass it to my wife if it doesn't work out.. I suppose you could always sell it to an American! LOL
Nexus 4 has been shipping from the playstore for a little while now. I'm looking at one myself as I love my Nexus S. Not sure I could ever pick up a branded locked phone again after using the nexus S. Travel to the US? No problem, slap a sim in and you're ready to go.
awyala
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Don't worry, the predictable text memory can be wiped if you sell it on. At least it should be able to, Android's is at any rate. You don't want some Yank constantly being offered your wife's pet name every time they hit a single letter!
The bad thing about predictable text fellas.....it's like search history memory...if you type something untoward in your search one day, it is now stored in multiple memory banks just waiting for someone close to you to pick up your phone and accidentally be offered something you once typed that is not what you may want others to see! It's one thing to wipe your search and browser history, but it is quite another to wipe your predictive text memory just because you typed in something a bit shady once!
That should keep you honest!
I was lucky enough to pick up a Nexus 4 when the second round went on sale in Canada (to replace my Galaxy Nexus). My wife has the Galaxy S3, and I easily prefer the Nexus 4 over it - clean Android OS is the way to go. And while I would have been happy with the HSPA+, the LTE fortunately works in Canada, so I get incredible speeds as well.
Having said that, I hope BB10 at least keeps BlackBerry (nee RIM) in the marketplace, even if it's down with Windows Phone in third place. Competition is good for the consumer and I'd rather not just have it be an Android / iOS world.
From what I've seen, the Z10 has decent (but fairly commonplace) specs. Not sure I understand the screen size choice given the rather large looking bezel space all around it. They should have either gone with a 4.5 or 4.7" screen, or tried to get that bezel size down to make the phone smaller. The OS looks nice though and has some nifty features. I don't see it taking the world by storm, but I'd probably give it a try over, say, a Windows phone if I was looking to leave Android.
This is how I see it as well. Adding the smaller "family plan" market to those.
People seem to make a big deal out of BB not being able to provide phones to hip kids that are the adopers or the tryhards of the market but really, they shouldn't care about that if they are the best business solution.
Instead of trying to be #1 in trends they should concentrate on the fact that they are #1 in the office space.
Not OMG what do we do? The tweens don't facebook on us....!!!
Lets rent a loft in Toronto and pose like we aren't a herd of nerds.
I'm an end user that couldn't give a **** what OS my phone has.
I want my BB to increase my ability to be productive. It will be replaced by another BB at the end of it's life cycle if it's worth it. I want my Google phone to talk, text, map and google.
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OpenGambit
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Statement stands 100 %.
bboySushi
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Typing on a BB at work = "Wow he's a busy guy, checking all his work emails so diligently. Good on him!"
Typing on any other smartphone = "All that guy does is text and play games on his phone, watching videos and scrolling through pictures. What are we paying him for?"
Course depends on your workplace too, but I think in general the corporate world/office jobs.
Windows phones look great, I always liked the Samsung ones too, but my BB is just for me. It does everything I need to in a small battery saving package (Except browse the net, which I don't really do anyways) with a tangible keyboard. Doesn't break when it flies off my bike on the highway. The only thing I wish it could do is play Bejewelled Blitz and run torrents.
Typing on any other smartphone = "All that guy does is text and play games on his phone, watching videos and scrolling through pictures. What are we paying him for?"
Course depends on your workplace too, but I think in general the corporate world/office jobs.
Windows phones look great, I always liked the Samsung ones too, but my BB is just for me. It does everything I need to in a small battery saving package (Except browse the net, which I don't really do anyways) with a tangible keyboard. Doesn't break when it flies off my bike on the highway. The only thing I wish it could do is play Bejewelled Blitz and run torrents.
That might have been true in the hayday of the BB but these days I don't think it matters. No one gives a damn what your phone is except for a very few ubergeeks. I got my smartphone for work and it does everything I ask of it and more and it's not a BB. One of my primary concerns was an unbranded, unlocked phone and so that's why I have my nexus s.
Airbus was started and is still partially owned by several governments (France, Germany, Spain, UK), France alone has a population of 65 million!
(Bombardier Aero (Canadair) was also owned by a government)
Let me know how the all touch Z10 works out for you. The more I think about the keyboard Q10, the more it makes sense.... Im willing to wager that when the Q is released, the reviewers will like it and proclaim that this is the "real BlackBerry", just like the mini Ipad was proclaimed as the "real iPad" when it was released.
Heres why,
The Q has a much larger battery, powering a smaller, but still amazing ppi screen.
The Qwerty phone is where RIM shines, the the Q is an excellent evolution. I understand they are just putting the final touches on the software so they will no doubt write in some improvements/changes from what they learned from the Z10s.
The Z10 is nice, but of what use is the bigger screen? The apps suck for now. The maps suck for now. The battery sucks. Sure it has the best all touch keyboard on the market, so?
I think they did a great job with the Z10 overall, but I would wait for the next generation of the all touch Z10 , as they will certainly improve it drastically, now that they have something on which to improve on.
OpenGambit
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your little over 6 months estimate is still extremely aggressive though.
You might want to clarify that to include being taken over, cause chap 11 in less than a year isn't something I would put money on, they still have a large revenue stream that has never really gone away.
awyala
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Hmm looks like you dont work too hard on that BB if you haven't smacked head long into the wall of its short comings compared against Android! Either that or your office doesn't have a BYOP policy yet.
Here is a list of business and social failings:
1. Slow to open PDF, DOC, and excel files
2. Unable to annotate said files
3. Uable to create said files or export to PDF
4. Unable to open CAD dwgs, annotate or create
5. Unable to VPN or VPN proxy via Teamviewer
6. Unable to access work or home computer desktop or drives
7. Unable to sketch
8. Unable to scan and digitize analong text to editable doc.
9. Unable to view or creat Gantt charts
10. Unable to inbed photos directly into notes with full sync across multiple machines (One Note)
11. Unable to present video or images across wifi to monitors
12. Unable to take written input
13. Unable to take oral dictation
14. Unable to be faster than touch screen keyboard.
15. Unable to reboot under 3 minutes
16. Unable to web browse effectively
17. Unable to function as a PDF or EPUB reader.
Fun:
1. Unable to do any the above with the video player playing on top!
2. Unable to do the above and make it to 9pm after a full working day.
3. Unable to take a decent picture
4. Unable to take a decent video
5. Unable to print screen and share
6. Unable to skype
7. Unable to Nav
8. Unable to link up to bluetooth gps receiver (10hz) and function as a data logger for the track
Let's see how many of those the Z10 can tick off or surpass
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Meh.......Everyone and their mother has an opinion......
Goldman Sachs analyst : IGNORE THE CHATTER, BLACKBERRY REBOUND IS COMING
http://bgr.com/2013/02/01/blackberry-10-analysis-goldman-sachs-314033/
"At least one leading market research firm thinks BlackBerry (RIMM) has done enough to gain some good traction in 2013,........"
BLACKBERRY 10 INSTALLED BASE TO REACH 20 MILLION IN 2013, WINDOWS PHONE TO REACH 45 MILLION
edit : Misek is another highly influential analyst..... he has two interesting research notes :
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...ds-the-table-on-software-prospects-z10-sales/
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I typed all day today on the touch pad keyboard , it will take me a couple days to get used to it. Biggest challenge for me is I can type without really looking at the keyboard on my old BB, I cannot do that on this device. The intuitive learning in the software may make me faster eventually but not yet.
Changing over my data from the curve to Z10 was pita for me, the shortcut transfers aren't available.
Changing over my data from the curve to Z10 was pita for me, the shortcut transfers aren't available.
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