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CafeRay said:
It was stupid behaviour, he got off on a technicality, and idiots here rejoice.

There are places to legally ride as fast as you want and prove your skills. At those speeds, he would have killed someone if he hit a car.
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A technicality would be a procedural error, like an improperly filed document or a missed deadline. Now explain how "he got off on a technicality"?
He got off because it couldn't be proven he was on the bike. That's what justice is, you get punished for crimes you committed, not for crimes you probably committed.
Luckily the court of law has a higher standard of proof than the court of public opinion, and a much higher standard than your brash opinion supported by ignorance.
 
N3WMAN said:
The death rate on the autobahn is half that of Ontario roads...
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Do you have a link for this statement? The German autobahn's do not have nearly the traffic rates of Ontario 400 highways.
Also, despite myths, the average speeds used on the autobahn are about the same as the 400s in low traffic -120km/hr. Most vehicles are limited to 120.
You know why? because when the autobahn had no limits or advisories, almost 1000 people a year died on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_autobahns

There were 225 deaths in 2011, 269 in 2012 on OPP-patrolled roads (this is more than just the highways).

http://www.newhamburgindependent.ca/news/deaths-on-ontario-roads-up-almost-20-per-cent-opp/


If you read that wiki article, you will see there were 430 deaths on just the autobahn in 2010.


N3WMAN said:
Not being able to prove he was riding the bike is a technicality? LOL
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Oh grow up, the guy made the video and posted it, he got off on a warrant technicality. Now he's free to kill himself. This is Darwinism at work.
 
fastar1 said:
Luckily the court of law has a higher standard of proof than the court of public opinion, and a much higher standard than your brash opinion supported by ignorance.
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Fact: he uploaded the video of his bike doing 299km/hr. Fact: this is illegal, stupid, ...and unsafe for everyone on that video.

He got off, but if you expect us to believe he wasn't riding that bike, in that video, I have a bridge to sell you.

I guess OJ Simpson didn't kill Nicole Brown either.
 
CafeRay said:
Fact: he uploaded the video of his bike doing 299km/hr. Fact: this is illegal, stupid, ...and unsafe for everyone on that video.

He got off, but if you expect us to believe he wasn't riding that bike, in that video, I have a bridge to sell you.

I guess OJ Simpson didn't kill Nicole Brown either.
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I'm convinced he was the one riding in the video, and I'm also convinced that a fair trial should have found him not guilty due to lack of evidence. One small loss for justice, one big win for Justice.
Try and wrap your head around that.
 
CafeRay said:
Do you have a link for this statement? The German autobahn's do not have nearly the traffic rates of Ontario 400 highways.
Also, despite myths, the average speeds used on the autobahn are about the same as the 400s in low traffic -120km/hr. Most vehicles are limited to 120.
You know why? because when the autobahn had no limits or advisories, almost 1000 people a year died on them.
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Federal Highway Research Institute, Bergish Gladbach, December 2012
Reference: IRTD OECD/ITF

German Fatality Rate (per 100,000 drivers): 4.5 Per Billion Km travelled: 5.18 on all Motorways, 1.98 on Motorways (i.e. Autobahns)
Canadian Fatality Rate (per 100,000 drivers): 6.5 Per Billion km travelled: 6.6 (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/tp-tp3322-2009-1173.htm)
Ontario Fatality Rate (per 100,000 drivers): 6.3 Per Billion km travelled: 4.1 (ORSAR 2010 report)

Now, consider that there is about triple the population in Germany as there is in Canada, and about triple the number of vehicles... The Canadian total fatality numbers will be much lower simply because there are fewer drivers.

According to what I posted and referenced above, Canada has more fatalities percentage wise than Germany does. Ontario somehow manages to skew the numbers by having more fatalities per 100,000 drivers than Germany, but less per billion km.

Unfortunately, the ORSAR report didn't specify the 400 series from what I saw (could well have missed it).
 
CafeRay said:
Do you have a link for this statement? The German autobahn's do not have nearly the traffic rates of Ontario 400 highways.
Also, despite myths, the average speeds used on the autobahn are about the same as the 400s in low traffic -120km/hr. Most vehicles are limited to 120.
You know why? because when the autobahn had no limits or advisories, almost 1000 people a year died on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_autobahns

There were 225 deaths in 2011, 269 in 2012 on OPP-patrolled roads (this is more than just the highways).

http://www.newhamburgindependent.ca/news/deaths-on-ontario-roads-up-almost-20-per-cent-opp/


If you read that wiki article, you will see there were 430 deaths on just the autobahn in 2010.
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If you read that wiki article you'll see that the Autobahn has 1.98 deaths per billion km/s travelled. Ontario is 4.5 deaths per billion for all roads. Notice I didn't say Ontario highways, but all Ontario roads as there is no data for just 400 series highways from Transport Canada. These are the only directly comparable numbers, as number of deaths is skewed by the population.

From transport canada for ALL of Ontario, not just OPP patrolled roads:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/tp-1317.htm#6

IF you want to compare pure number of deaths then here goes. 225 deaths on OPP roads, 430 on Autobahn which is 1.9 times as many. However, Germany has a population 6.3 times larger than Ontario, so they have 1/3 the fatalities per capita.

Please do continue to make blanket statements with no basis. It seems to be your thing.

CafeRay said:
Oh grow up, the guy made the video and posted it, he got off on a warrant technicality. Now he's free to kill himself. This is Darwinism at work.
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I need to grow up? LOL

He got off due to reasonable doubt, not a warrant technicality.
 
I attend police government seized auctions which are open to the general public and I'm wondering if he went to the auction where his bike may have been for sale and bought it back? There may just be a part 2 to his original video!
 
I'm curious as to whether the cops would have seized his vehicle if it was a high end car - say a Lambo or Ferrari. I suspect not. Two things acting against the rider in this case, I think, were the perceived lower value and the sense that bikes are "toys". It shouldn't matter but I bet it did.
 
Griffin said:
I'm curious as to whether the cops would have seized his vehicle if it was a high end car - say a Lambo or Ferrari. I suspect not. Two things acting against the rider in this case, I think, were the perceived lower value and the sense that bikes are "toys". It shouldn't matter but I bet it did.
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no, don't think so. "toys" or not, in BC, they'll tow anything.

Exotics:
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/13-young-drivers-caught-racing-luxury-cars-1.691489

not really exotic, but they're not cheap cars either:
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/3-alleged-speeders-caught-in-luxury-cars-only-1-has-licence-1.1232985
 
veno78 said:
Reading some of the comments on youtube;

"The Rider was just found not guilty of all crimes =). Its stupid to do this, but there are worse things in world. Had something gone wrong in this circumstance,

anyone in a car would have been perfectly safe

...and the rider needless to say would have been the only casualty."

wow.
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Really... A 250+ lbs object travelling at 300 kms/hr smashes into your car, and you think you're safe...

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Think again.
 
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Griffin said:
I'm curious as to whether the cops would have seized his vehicle if it was a high end car - say a Lambo or Ferrari. I suspect not. Two things acting against the rider in this case, I think, were the perceived lower value and the sense that bikes are "toys". It shouldn't matter but I bet it did.
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that's the one good part of the police service in Ontario, is that they're pretty indiscriminate when it comes to towing/charging vehicles

police stunt tow other police cars for 7-days if the officer can't give a valid reason for doing +50kph

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/88083/cop-charged-with-stunt-driving-cruiser-impounded-by-opp/

i remember reading an article where a diplomat was saying that he had to pay his traffic fines just like everybody else, no preferential treatment; he's not allowed to speed or drive recklessly (impaired); they have some immunity, but if they abuse it... Canada will kick them out

even MPs, Judges, Doctors get treated the same as us.... anyone recall that on-call heart surgeon doing 75 in a 40 zone to the hospital; his *** would've been convicted, but the prosecutor dropped it because they believed it wasn't in the public's best interest

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/01/12/traffic_cop_holds_up_speeding_surgeon.html
 
iFly55 said:
that's the one good part of the police service in Ontario, is that they're pretty indiscriminate when it comes to towing/charging vehicles

police stunt tow other police cars for 7-days if the officer can't give a valid reason for doing +50kph

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/88083/cop-charged-with-stunt-driving-cruiser-impounded-by-opp/

i remember reading an article where a diplomat was saying that he had to pay his traffic fines just like everybody else, no preferential treatment; he's not allowed to speed or drive recklessly (impaired); they have some immunity, but if they abuse it... Canada will kick them out

even MPs, Judges, Doctors get treated the same as us.... anyone recall that on-call heart surgeon doing 75 in a 40 zone to the hospital; his *** would've been convicted, but the prosecutor dropped it because they believed it wasn't in the public's best interest

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/01/12/traffic_cop_holds_up_speeding_surgeon.html
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"one of the city's top cardiologists and inventor of a revolutionary heart stent that helps blocked arteries heal after insertion." and when he said, after identifying himself as a cardiologist, that he's on his way to an emergency, the cop didn't use his discretion to let him go. atrocious.
 
iFly55 said:
that's the one good part of the police service in Ontario, is that they're pretty indiscriminate when it comes to towing/charging vehicles

police stunt tow other police cars for 7-days if the officer can't give a valid reason for doing +50kph

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/88083/cop-charged-with-stunt-driving-cruiser-impounded-by-opp/

i remember reading an article where a diplomat was saying that he had to pay his traffic fines just like everybody else, no preferential treatment; he's not allowed to speed or drive recklessly (impaired); they have some immunity, but if they abuse it... Canada will kick them out

even MPs, Judges, Doctors get treated the same as us.... anyone recall that on-call heart surgeon doing 75 in a 40 zone to the hospital; his *** would've been convicted, but the prosecutor dropped it because they believed it wasn't in the public's best interest

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/01/12/traffic_cop_holds_up_speeding_surgeon.html
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You know what a major difference between humans and computers are? Humans can make their own decisions and don't always have to follow rules. Lets just get a bunch of ****ing robots to police us if you think cops who can't make their own judgment calls are a good thing.
 
jeffjones said:
He's back lol
this time in a Lamborghini.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/lamborghini-seized-020211222.html
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I was going to respond to @hedo2002's comment, "he likely won't be riding for a long time", but didn't bother. Also, I guess technically, he's not riding.
I went to school with a guy who drove to his "driving while under suspension" hearing, and waved to the cop who charged him.
He was charged again, and again drove to the courthouse, since the bus would take too long.
As someone here so succinctly put it, "Why are peope so stupid?"
 
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Baggsy said:
I was going to respond to @hedo2002's comment, "he likely won't be riding for a long time", but didn't bother. Also, I guess technically, he's not riding.
I went to school with a guy who drove to his "driving while under suspension" hearing, and waved to the cop who charged him.
He was charged again, and again drove to the courthouse, since the bus would take too long.
As someone here so succinctly put it, "Why are peope so stupid?"
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He thought his world couldn't get worse
 
gerrbear8 said:
wait! so the article says that another motorist "saw" the lambo breaking the speed limit and called the cops. and that's enough to get your car impounded in BC?

so if i visit BC and just call 911 from a prepaid phone and say this and this car is going 200kph (a lie) and cops will just tow their car? this sounds insane to me.
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Several other motorists, including motorists driving police cruisers, saw him grossly exceeding the speed limit.

Saanich Police say several callers reported seeing it speeding and weaving through traffic. At one point officers saw the car driving between 160 and 200 kilometres an hour on the highway. Officers were able to identify the driver, but weren’t able to pull him over until Victoria Police caught up with the car on Douglas Street near Superior.

The driver was ticketed and handed a $483 fine for excessive speed. The car has been impounded for seven days. But police say they’re seeking more action.
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油井緋色;2098247 said:
You know what a major difference between humans and computers are? Humans can make their own decisions and don't always have to follow rules. Lets just get a bunch of ****ing robots to police us if you think cops who can't make their own judgment calls are a good thing.
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You mean speed cameras.
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